Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net> (Marvin Kaye)
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Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 21:10:40 -0400
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From: Billhogarty@aol.com
Subject: Re: Las Vegas Accident
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Well, I didnt want to broadcast the details of this accident until all the 
dust had settled but here goes:

Round robin from Tracy CA to North Las Vegas last Sunday, 27 July, to pick up 
2 passengers.  Refueled and departed Las Vegas approximately 10 AM.  Wx 
clear.   Tower cleared me for a VFR departure to pick up my IFR clearance enroute 
and when clearing me for takeoff;  advise me to use caution for wake 
turbulence. 

(They fly large ugly multiengine turboprop charter flights from North Las 
Vegas to the Grand Canyon - look something like a grayhound bus with wings)

Well, I was # 2 behind one of these charter flight, so I watched him until he 
started his turnout.  Delayed my takeoff.   Tower advise either I take off or 
clear the runway.  SOooo, I took off (BAD CHOICE).!!!!!!!!

Everything was normal until the wheels left the runway;  then the acrobatics 
started.  Controls had absolutely no effect.  Plane hit runway sideways and 
gear folded.  Lucky we didnt hit first on nosegear or we could have cartwheeled. 
(BAD for survival).  Lucky we had inertia reel seat belts!!!!  All gear 
folded under and we slid to a very sudden stop in the dirt off the side of the 
runway.  No injuries except I cut my head on sun visors.  Lots of blood.  4 hours 
in E.R. for 5 stitches.   Just got bill from hospital.  They charge $ 4024 for 
5 stitches.  (Guess I'm in the wrong business)

Friendly folks at Lone Mountain Aviation helped out.  Picked up plane, 
drained fuel, and pulled wings.  Plane will be trucked back to Tracy this week for 
repair.   Many thanks to Tom and Lorraine Zedeker(sp?) for their hospitality 
and assistance.

MORAL # 1:  DO NOT do acrobatics until at least 1 mile (preferably 2) above 
runway.

MORAL #2:  STAY AWAY from grayhound bus with wings

Appreciate all the kind words from folks on the list.  Bill Hogarty


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Well, I didnt want to broadcast the details of this accident until all the d=
ust had settled but here goes:<BR>
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Round robin from Tracy CA to North Las Vegas last Sunday, 27 July, to pick u=
p 2 passengers.&nbsp; Refueled and departed Las Vegas approximately 10 AM.&n=
bsp; Wx clear.&nbsp;&nbsp; Tower cleared me for a VFR departure to pick up m=
y IFR clearance enroute and when clearing me for takeoff;&nbsp; advise me to=
 use caution for wake turbulence. <BR>
<BR>
(They fly large ugly multiengine turboprop charter flights from North Las Ve=
gas to the Grand Canyon - look something like a grayhound bus with wings)<BR=
>
<BR>
Well, I was # 2 behind one of these charter flight, so I watched him until h=
e started his turnout.&nbsp; Delayed my takeoff.&nbsp;&nbsp; Tower advise ei=
ther I take off or clear the runway.&nbsp; SOooo, I took off (BAD CHOICE).!!=
!!!!!!<BR>
<BR>
Everything was normal until the wheels left the runway;&nbsp; then the acrob=
atics started.&nbsp; Controls had absolutely no effect.&nbsp; Plane hit runw=
ay sideways and gear folded.&nbsp; Lucky we didnt hit first on nosegear or w=
e could have cartwheeled. (BAD for survival).&nbsp; Lucky we had inertia ree=
l seat belts!!!!&nbsp; All gear folded under and we slid to a very sudden st=
op in the dirt off the side of the runway.&nbsp; No injuries except I cut my=
 head on sun visors.&nbsp; Lots of blood.&nbsp; 4 hours in E.R. for 5 stitch=
es.&nbsp;&nbsp; Just got bill from hospital.&nbsp; They charge $ 4024 for 5=20=
stitches.&nbsp; (Guess I'm in the wrong business)<BR>
<BR>
Friendly folks at Lone Mountain Aviation helped out.&nbsp; Picked up plane,=20=
drained fuel, and pulled wings.&nbsp; Plane will be trucked back to Tracy th=
is week for repair.&nbsp;&nbsp; Many thanks to Tom and Lorraine Zedeker(sp?)=
 for their hospitality and assistance.<BR>
<BR>
MORAL # 1:&nbsp; DO NOT do acrobatics until at least 1 mile (preferably 2) a=
bove runway.<BR>
<BR>
MORAL #2:&nbsp; STAY AWAY from grayhound bus with wings<BR>
<BR>
Appreciate all the kind words from folks on the list.&nbsp; Bill Hogarty<BR>
<BR>
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