Return-Path: Received: from [24.50.193.34] (HELO biggy) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1b3) with ESMTP-TLS id 2122820 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:49:04 -0400 Message-ID: <005e01c302e8$ccb8fed0$663b3690@biggy> From: "Rob Logan" To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair Suffolk Fly-In / Race] Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 20:48:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 >> and lets get a 4 ship up at Suffolk... > Are you going to evaluate/train interested persons? all the FAA requires is "prearranged" and no "passengers for hire"... kinda an easy standard... no training or tests required... so to answer your question directly: "its not required" formation flying in airshows the government wants to protect the paying public so they have three approved programs: FAST (warbirds), FFI (I have one) or Swift club's program. I don't think they charge admission at the "fast glass" get together so a "card" isn't required. but to do this stuff safely there are a bunch of hand signs and processes one goes through.. I included a link to the Grumman standards that you elected to cut out... Its up to us, the Lancair group to come up with our own standards.. all civilian standards are based on the T-34 standards. heck, here is the RV std: http://home.hiwaay.net/~sbuc/tvrvbg/teamrvtrainingguide2a.pdf anyway, I hope those of you with alittle wing time will step forward and we can work out our standards in the FAA required pre flight briefing.. those of you with no wing time, email me and we will do some two ship work before bouncing into 4ship... heck, this is more fun and more legal than some of the race turns I've seen... photos I took last Saturday: http://rob.com/pra/ckb/ --