Return-Path: Received: from imo29.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.73]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:38:32 -0500 Received: from Fredmoreno@aol.com by imo29.mx.aol.com (IMOv18.1) id AWMMa01221 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:39:56 -0500 (EST) From: Fredmoreno@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Feb 1999 12:39:56 EST To: lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: Crushed Tungsten source X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Several years ago I ordered 25 pounds from: Hi-Temp Specialty Metals, Inc. Industrial Park P.O. Box 2188 Willingboro, NJ 08046 Sorry, couldn't find the phone number. Another source I used when I needed more: Exotech, Inc. 2077 N. Powerline Road Pompano Beach, FL 33069 305-960-1770, Mike Gussack. The material is apparently a waste product from tungsten carbide manufacture. My cost was about $3.00 per pound. Ask for the fine grade which is like beach sand or a bit coarser. The density of the "sand" (including voidage) is about equivalent to lead when you add epoxy to fill in the open space, or about 20 times denser than dry pine which I used to make master forms for aileron weights. I recall about 0.4 pounds per cubic inch, but make a sample and check before going forward. I made pine forms, weighted them, calculated the equivalent weight in tungsten epoxy, and then cut the pine down t size until I got what I needed. I mixed up a batch of epoxy, then stirred in the tungsten (you need a tough stick or an old stainless spoon) until it looked like wet, slightly runny sand, and then formed it into plaster of Paris molds derived from wood that I shaped to fit the spaces I wanted to fill. For ailerons, these end up being long tapered sections with triangular cross sections. Once hardened you break the shapes out of the mold, clean up, then bond in place and cover with 1-2 BID. You can sand the tungsten/epoxy shapes on the belt sander to get rid of rough spots, but what you are doing is ripping out tungsten grains from the matrix, and your sanding belt will get smooth in a hurry. When you cast your shapes, be sure you get very near to the final shape because that's the way it's going to be. I used a different approach for the elevator counterweights. After I finished and primed the elevators, I cut a hole on the inside surface of the counterweight horn about 4 inches back from the leading edge, and then spooned in the gooey mix of epoxy and tungsten (preweighed), and left the elevator nose down until the stuff hardened. Then I patched the hole. Easy, painless, and a lot easier than fussing with lead shapes. I also think the excellent fit (self forming) in the counterweight area provides a slight weight reduction because you are getting maximum density all the way to the front. Hope this helps, Fred Moreno