Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 10:49:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net ([63.231.195.115] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with SMTP id 1980739 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 11 Jan 2003 07:59:21 -0500 Received: (qmail 46098 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jan 2003 12:56:50 -0000 Received: from mpls-pop-12.inet.qwest.net (63.231.195.12) by mpls-qmqp-04.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 11 Jan 2003 12:56:50 -0000 Received: from dnvr-dsl-gw20-poold68.dnvr.uswest.net (HELO marauder) (65.100.147.68) by mpls-pop-12.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 11 Jan 2003 12:59:17 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 05:59:16 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <004301c2b971$3fff8ab0$0300000a@marauder> From: "Mike Hutchins" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: Wing Loading Mysteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Brian, I think you are confusing the aerodynamic characteristics associated with wing loading and the structural strength of the wing. The two are not necessarily related. Wing Loading primarily relates to the stall speed of the aircraft as well as its relative sensitivity to turbulence. In other words, the higher the wing loading, the greater the stall speed (assuming the coefficient of lift is the same for the wings compared). Conversely, the higher the wing loading, the less turbulence will tend to upset the aircraft. It also effects the top speed somewhat in that a smaller wing will have less wetted surface area, and therefore less parasitic drag. This is offset, however, by the slightly higher angle of attack needed to support the aircraft with a smaller wing, leading to increased form drag. The structural limit of 12,000 pounds for the L-IV wing is suspect to me. In Martin Hollmann's book, "Modern Aircraft Design", he reports that the L-IV wing failed under a total load of 9,250 lbs. This correlates to an aerodynamic wing loading of 8.3 G's (Using a Gross Weight of 2900 lbs.), according to Martin's calculations. Note that this is not simply Load At Failure / Aircraft Gross Weight. In regards to a proposed Gross Weight of 4000 lbs, this will derate your maximum G-Force at wing failure by 42% (you get to subtract the structural weight of the wing, 310 lbs., but not the fuel and accessories), to a maximum of 4.8 G's. Backing out the 2x safety factor, this leaves you with a maximum G-Force of 2.4 G's. In other words, with a bank angle of 65 degrees in level flight you would be at the rated structural maximum G-Force. And this is only for the positive G Situation. Along these same lines, a Gross Weight increase to 4000 would result in a stall speed of roughly 104 mph. Using 1.3 x Vso, your landing speed would now be 135 mph. Your brakes, ignoring the effects of aerodynamic braking, would have to absorb 260% more energy to bring you aircraft to a stop. I have no idea how long your takeoff and landing distances would be. Thats for another night. Disclaimer - I'm not an engineer, nor have I slept at a Holiday Inn. Best Regards, Mike Hutchins