Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:42:58 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccmmhc02.mchsi.com ([204.127.203.184] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b7) with ESMTP id 1711187 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 19:04:22 -0400 Received: from user ([12.217.81.105]) by sccmmhc02.mchsi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with SMTP id <20020824230422.FKJJ7903.sccmmhc02.mchsi.com@user> for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:04:22 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001c24bc2$9af71d60$6951d90c@user> From: "Cy Galley" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Test Flight X-Original-Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:47:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 The comments below get many in trouble as they don't want to be perceived as weak or a sissy. This macho pilot image thing has injured or killed many that might become excellent skilled pilot/owner/builders if some one with better qualifications did the first flight. The first flight is a high stress event. Statistics have shown that reducing that stress can minimize crashes in the first few flights. With that in mind EAA has set up some help for those that think they just have to make the first flight. They have a Flight Advisor Program plus the best idea is getting some Transition Training from a CFI and Flying plane of the make and model or very similar airplane. This can also be helpful when making the first flight after a long restoration. Having someone else do the test flight still doesn't make you the competent pilot you need to be to fly your airplane. You need experience and recent practice. One of the biggest problems that the builder faces is lack of current flying time. They make a choice as to where the money and time is spent. Many times it is spent on the building phase so that their flying skills get very rusty. They need some time in type to be able to handle the everyday flying problems. They need some transition training. The Transition Training FAA Waiver is available free from the EAA. This makes it possible for the owner to rent your the plane just like the one you are building. The only restriction is the plane must have 100 hour conditional inspections. Members of EAA as part of their membership have a data base of planes that are registered for transition training. You need to consult your EAA magazine for the 1-888 phone number. Ask for Jan Streblow for the type and a convenient location. We are working on placing this data base in the "members only" of www.eaa.org. web site for easier access. Do I believe in Transition Training? Of course I do and so do the insurance companies. Ever buy a plane? Just to get it insured, I had to take 10 hours in my Bellanca before I could solo. Those 10 hours were better insurance than the insurance company's. I became qualified to fly my plane safely. Cy Galley Editor, EAA Safety Programs cgalley@qcbc.org or experimenter@eaa.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ted Stanley" To: "Lancair Mailing List" Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 5:17 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Test Flight My thoughts on hiring a test pilot for the first flight. Did you send someone else on your honeymoon? If you can't fly it the first time, you should not have built it! Each airplane is type specific, )kind of like women) no one knows it better than you! Insurance, no one has enough insurance for a homebuilt. Beware of so called qualifications. Jim Hankins I read the comments (above) of Jim Hankins. I do hope that other builders will not be infected with this same attitude. While his bravado may seem compelling, the same cannot be said of his logic. I do however agree with his admonition to "beware of so called qualifications". By the way Jim, what are yours ? Ted Stanley - A&P-IA - 11,000 PIC - current FAR 135 - Aviation Safety Counselor - IV ############################################################# For archives see the LML website: http://www.lancaironline.net/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.lancaironline.net/bookstore/lancair/