Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:56:51 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b4) with ESMTP id 1629804 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:26:42 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GZCISH0D.J0O for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:26:41 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: lean operation X-Original-Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 07:25:54 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 <<.... The biggest deal I see here is the reference value. People see the word "lean" and they automatically associate that with LOP.>>...and dozens of other postings on dozens of other lists.... I can't help but jump in here. I find all this discussion about lean operation totally ridiculous. Not that it isn't necessary, but because it is so necessary. The only place air/fuel ratio is discussed in automotive circles is in the engineering community - the last time it was discussed by average consumers was probably 60 years ago. It will probably take the second or third generation FADECs before we can finally forget about engine management and concentrate on driving the plane. As far as the Australian crash, when I first read the report I concluded that it really was very simple and could have been written on two pages. A crankshaft broke (strictly mechanical failure, just like all the other Continental cranks) and then the operator went to full power on the other engine without remembering to go full rich. At that high boost detonation will take only a few seconds to damage that engine and that's the end of the story. Why do we have levers in the cockpit that, mismanaged will actually break things? I know, "that's the way its always been." We have air bags in cars not because all drivers are incompetent, but because anyone can make a mistake and we don't want to let them die because of it. Had to say it. Couldn't help myself. Gary Casey ES project, custom FADEC system