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Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 21:20:58 -0400
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From: "JJ JOHNSON" <JJJOHNSON@ACCESSCOMM.CA>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stalls/spins
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Brent,
     I agree w/ you completely and have voiced my opinion a couple of times
on this subject. After doing so I realised that telling others what i think
isn't going to change their opinion. I do know, however, that before taking
that offered ride in someon else's a/c I will be asking if they have the
proper training to fly that a/c [ ei. have they stalled it] and will decide
then and there weather to fly w/ them.

> Stalls can be accomplished without spins but spins require a stall.<

On another note, you mentioned in your last Para.[above] that you have to
stall the a/c to spin in. This is true in the basic sense of the word, BUT
 There's always a but  :) ], there are certain cercomstances where it in not
nesc. to completely stall the a/c, initally, to spin it.  Now bear w/ me and
I will explain.  I've never done this in anything other than a certified a/c
[ c-150 & 172]  if you take the a/c up to the stall, and as soon as the horn
goes[ at this point its a warning of the impending stall]  and throw full
rudder into the mix, the a/c will spin. What happens is the a/c yaw's enough
to slow the inside wing to the stall, while the outside wing accelerates and
creates more lift. This is of course an induces's a spin and yes the wing
did stall, but its not the same as if you stalled the wing and then kicked
rudder. Just thought I would pass that on.

Jarrett Johnson

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