Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.165.45] (account ) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.0b4) with HTTP id 1513022 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:57:36 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] FW: stalls/spins To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro Web Mailer v.4.0b4 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 18:57:36 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <523A812DEFEBD3119C2F00508B938198E231B0@cmb_nt> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for John Jessen : I'm not all that qualified to join this conversation, given my relative lack of hours, but I do have one perspective that happened not too long ago... I was practicing night landings in a rented Cherokee, when I saw movement headed towards the runway while on short final (as in deer or other critter) and pushed the throttle to the wall for a go around. I was at full flaps and reached down for the handle to change to take off flaps. After getting the Johnson to release, the handle slipped out of my hand and slammed down to the floor. Now, no flaps, under powered, hot night and I'm doing MCA across the field. I was wagging my tail as I tried to control the yaw and lower the nose. It didn't take long to recognize the condition and know that I was very close to, if not in a stall. Those Cherokees are very forgiving and I was able to mush my way down the runway until I got it up to speed again. I don't want to do that in a Lancair, a Glasair or any other plane that might not be so friendly, but it can happen and happen fast. So, I agree with Brian...know your planes characteristics relative to stall approach and handling, get that POH written and in doing so you will cement the numbers in the old brain, but build your reflexes in kinder, more forgiving aircraft, or even high performance aircraft with known stall characteristics. However, never, ever think that there won't be a time when you'll need to "fly MCA down the runway," no matter how far in advance you fly the plane. This stuff just happens and those reflexes and insights into your own, unique bird may be enough, just enough, to get you through. Just had to say something... John (N212PJ reserved)