Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:02:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from siaag1af.compuserve.com ([149.174.40.8] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b4) with ESMTP id 1511295 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:01:51 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by siaag1af.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.12) id MAA28414 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:01:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2002 12:01:37 -0400 From: James Frantz Subject: [LML] Re: stalls X-Original-Sender: James Frantz X-Original-To: "INTERNET:lml@lancaironline.net" X-Original-Message-ID: <200206241201_MC3-1-392-A4F4@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline >Tough to remember the above if a wing drops abruptly at the stall, best = to have practiced a recovery technique so it's almost reflexive.< Just a couple of thoughts regarding stall recovery. In my years of instructing, few pilots recover from stall/wing drop with rudder even though this is the correct method. It is a difficult habit to break, usi= ng aileron in the stall recovery. Differential ailerons seems to mask the improper aileron recovery so we generally get away with it. I'm a big fan of practicing stalls but some aircraft are just not meant t= o stall. I would put the IV in this category. Depending upon your experience, some other Lancairs are not good platforms for learning or brushing up on stall recoveries. Approaches to stalls are OK in any aircraft including Lancairs and it is the recognition and recovery that w= e are interested in. Approaches to stalls means that the pilot recognizes = an impending stall before it happens using the stall warner/AOA and effects = a coordinated recovery with minimum altitude loss and no secondary stall. = The pre stall buffet on Lancairs does not give an adequate safe warning even with stall strips based upon reports from reputable pilots. As I understand it, stall strips on some Lancairs have made them spin resistan= t. In the Lancair Network News it was reported that some experts felt the I= V was prone to a stall condition called laminar separation which is a viole= nt separation that occurs at the leading edge first and works rapidly aft. N= ot exactly a pussy cat stall. = Also keep in mind that stalls have to be practiced at a safe altitude by FAR. Unfortunately stall recovery from a safe altitude looks completely different as compared to a pattern altitude stall recovery. = There are several eye opening reports from pilots stalling Lancairs in th= e Lancair Network News. See Marv's LNN Archives. James B. Frantz Proprietary Software Systems, Inc. = www.angle-of-attack.com LFrantz@compuserve.com (952) 474-4154