Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b9) with ESMTP id 969222 for rob@logan.com; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:25:54 -0500 Received: from smtp.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.3]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:24:49 -0500 Received: from ws-01.olsusa.com ([207.30.195.102]) by smtp.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:24:21 -0500 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011211132119.029af930@pop3.olsusa.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 13:24:55 -0500 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: Marvin Kaye Subject: TKS Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Posted for "Lance" : Marv and folks, Recently a reader wrote in some grossly inaccurate statements regarding TKS and Lancair International. The author never bothered to check with anyone at Lancair, he simply went into "tabloid mode" with his keyboard. For those who care to know facts, they are: The "factory" was at one point working with TKS and had expended a lot of energy and expense in analysis and early stage installation studies. Support from TKS was sketchy at best perhaps due to the Great Britain mother company and the changing players who represented them here in the USA but we had no complaints over their efforts as they happened to evolve. However during that period a potentially superior approach was emerging and we felt it was hopefully a far better fit for our weight conscious IV's. Since that time we have been working very hard with the developer who, based on the merits of the system, received a SBIR (Small Business Innovative Research grant from NASA) to develop it further in conjunction with Lancair. Since that time we have together run our full scale Lancair IV wing on four separate occasions (about three to four days each) in the NASA Lewis Ice Tunnel. Each time, more data was collected, angles of attach tested, impingement areas adjusted, lift data recorded, drag data recorded, laminar flow effects recorded and ice pattern shapes recorded. This has been a long and hard worked program but it is now in the final stages of completion based on the last review made in November. We finally expect to be flight testing the full system on our company IV, N599L hopefully in January. The expectation is that we can begin offering this superior system shortly thereafter. The plan at this time is to perform the first few installations at either our facility or at the developer's facility (Ohio). This is to insure that everything is installed as it should be. The benefits of this system are many. It will weigh about 1/3 that of TKS. It will install far easier, it will not require anything ever again once installed vs. the repeat consumables of TKS that are often hard to find and a continual and not insignificant cost. Since it is operated electrically, there is a double duty added benefit of a safety electrical backup source and also the power to operate an air-conditioning system (also in near term final development). And, it will not cost any more (quite likely a bit less) than TKS. Once again the internet displays one of it's weaknesses - nobody is required to know the facts before posting. I hope these "real facts" are helpful to all. Sincerely, Lance >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>