Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b9) with ESMTP id 963794 for rob@logan.com; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:45:24 -0500 Received: from hawaii.rr.com ([24.25.227.33]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:04:42 -0500 Received: from brian ([24.161.141.242]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.517.51); Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:18:01 -1000 Reply-To: Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "Brian Barbata" To: "Lancair Mail List" Subject: ditching Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:18:12 -1000 Message-ID: <000601c177ed$9abfcc60$6601a8c0@hawaii.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Importance: Normal Return-Path: barbatab001@hawaii.rr.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Here in Hawaii, EVERY flight is an over water flight. Emergency landings on water are a mindset to me. I am probably more prepared for a ditching (equipment and mentally) than for a land emergency, and might even head for calm inshore lee water rather than a marginal ground landing site in some situations. As others have already mentioned, properly prepared, survivability in anything but the worst sea state, night ditching is highly likely. Being found is the greater problem. Even here, where water temperature is not the crisis it might be in other places, I carry a 4-6 person raft, an overboard bag with all sorts of recovery aids in it, a portable radio, and everyone in the plane WEARS a life jacket. I use Flight Following on every flight, even the 20 minute hop to Molokai. On the other hand, I know people on the mainland who will avoid flying over a small lake. Properly prepared, give me flat water over the forest any day! The issue of space is a tough one. There is plenty of room in my Bonanza for all the stuff described. But we are building a Lancair IV, and it will have to go on the rear floor. Whatever. Just don't do what I've seen some do and put the overboard gear in the baggage compartment! What concerns us more than how to get down is how to get OUT of a Lancair IV-P. No one seems to have a good solution to emergency egress, except for one pilot we met who carries a 9mm automatic pistol. Having initially scoffed at this, I have now reached the conclusion that he has, in fact, found the only 100% for sure solution. Just keep your headset on! The briefing instructions to passenger must raise a few eyebrows... To the earlier point of flotation, we found that to be a comforting secondary reason for choosing a Lancair. After working on the wings and looking at the way it's built, I can't imagine it not floating (although I wouldn't count on it). That would be a welcome bonus in a ditching. The Bonanza, on the other hand, typically floats for less than a minute. I would agree that the parachute is undesirable and unreasonable. If your "tail falls off", maybe you were just destined to help clean up the gene pool. Brian Barbata LIVP-T 30% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>