Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b7) with ESMTP id 942433 for rob@logan.com; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:33:40 -0500 Received: from rook.innercite.com ([158.222.5.8]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 18:05:12 -0500 Received: from colwell (host-229-153.dialup.innercite.com [158.222.229.153] (may be forged)) by rook.innercite.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id f9UNHeU29842 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:17:40 -0800 Message-ID: <014901c16199$19a63ca0$5de3de9e@colwell> From: "Steve & Claudette Colwell" To: "lancair list" References: <9177837EAECAD211A77B0040C7770FDA099723@SBSECURITIES01> Subject: Accidents/Insurance Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:17:51 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> We should not blame Avemco or any other insurance company for backing away from a risk with the loss experience they have had. Maybe its time for us to do a careful analysis of the IV accidents (and close calls), then try to isolate the causes. If Builder Assist Shops or maybe just one or two Shops are determined to be a leading cause lets determine that. My guess is a large percentage of IVaccidents like most GA's were "pilot error" followed by modifications to fuel systems, engines, etc.. If it is determined the IV requires a much higher level of proficiency to fly safely than their pilots believe, that ought to be addressed and hammered home. Modifications ought to be reviewed by someone who knows what is not a good idea (not just another builder who may not know enough in the first place and would not be enough of an authority to be heeded anyway). I have seen some LNC2's that look like they had the lay-ups done with a mop and we do not hear of them having structural failures. That leads me to believe that the airframes are designed to be very tolerant of workmanship if left unmodified or maybe their owners are just lucky. If there are a couple of leading causes of accidents we are not focused on, lets determine them for our own sake, as well as Insurance. I think flying small airplanes can be reasonably safe if you minimize the risks. Do not fly into bad weather. Do not stretch your fuel. Don't exceed the limits of your airplane. Don't show off. Get and remain proficient. (this should eliminate about 95% of the things that can hurt you) And if we are building in potential problems let's know what they are. Steve Colwell Legacy 2K Placerville,CA (530) 621-3408 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>