X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:49:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ndjsnpf02.ndc.nasa.gov ([198.117.1.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.9e) with ESMTP id 7201041 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 16:33:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.117.1.122; envelope-from=valin.b.thorn@nasa.gov Received: from ndjsppt105.ndc.nasa.gov (ndjsppt105.ndc.nasa.gov [198.117.1.199]) by ndjsnpf02.ndc.nasa.gov (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD087A8033 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:31:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from NDJSCHT111.ndc.nasa.gov (ndjscht111-pub.ndc.nasa.gov [198.117.1.211]) by ndjsppt105.ndc.nasa.gov (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id s99KWhXk027560 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:32:43 -0500 Received: from NDJSMBX101.ndc.nasa.gov ([169.254.1.184]) by NDJSCHT111.ndc.nasa.gov ([198.117.1.211]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:32:43 -0500 From: "Thorn, Valin B. 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(JSC-VA411)" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows Thread-Index: AQHP47G2P1W5OUJypEqYKfgG2sPJ3JwoOGzw X-Original-Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 20:32:43 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <0705A91F9164914998F23A2F0BB661A9BC3717@NDJSMBX101.ndc.nasa.gov> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [66.35.45.68] Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="_004_0705A91F9164914998F23A2F0BB661A9BC3717NDJSMBX101ndcnasa_"; type="multipart/alternative" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-09_08:2014-10-09,2014-10-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 --_004_0705A91F9164914998F23A2F0BB661A9BC3717NDJSMBX101ndcnasa_ Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_0705A91F9164914998F23A2F0BB661A9BC3717NDJSMBX101ndcnasa_" --_000_0705A91F9164914998F23A2F0BB661A9BC3717NDJSMBX101ndcnasa_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Carl, yes, I'd sure appreciate learning more about what material was= used in yours, any special application techniques on acrylic, and who did = the work. Thanks again, Valin From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Carl= La Rue Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 5:11 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows Valin, Some 13-14 years ago I heard about a new, expensive gold film that could be= applied to aircraft windows to cut down on internal heat. The only place = that I could find to get it installed was at Van Nuys, CA so I flew out fro= m OH to have it done. It cost me about $1700, as I remember. The first th= ing I noticed was that it seemed to reduce the interior heat by ten degrees= or so. Noticeable, anyway, to my wife and me. The second noticeable eff= ect was that my vision through it was improved in hazy conditions. That wa= s/is easy to discern because, not quite trusting the product to have it ins= talled directly in my line of vision (the runway environment) I had it cut = in a wide arc in front of me, leaving a 6-8 inch band above and to the side= s of the windshield, and that lets me compare viz through it or not. It has been very durable but, of course, I'm careful with it. I would inst= all it again. If you are interested in it let me know and I'll research my= records for you. Carl La Rue 2200 hours on LIV-P N299KT . From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Doug= las Brunner Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:24 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows Valin, Why do you want to do this? Not a criticism, just a question. What I have found to be extremely valuable is a canopy shade that allows me= to control the amount sun that comes in. D. Brunner From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Thor= n, Valin B. (JSC-VA411) Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:47 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows Hello, We're looking at applying ultraviolet and infrared filtering films on our L= egacy's canopy. Not looking to darken it since the canopy has some tinting= in it already -- though, looking to filter as much UV and IR as possible. = There are several products from 3M, Llumar, and others with these properti= es used on cars and glass windows every day. Has anyone one applied any window tinting or other films to their acrylic w= indows? How did it work out or not? Kim at Lancair is checking with their acrylic window vendor to see what UV = and IR filtering properties their acrylic windows already have. Thanks, Valin Thorn Legacy Project Colorado BTW, Paul and Marv, this is an example of a question that applies to all La= ncair aircraft types. We could use a category on Lancairtalk.net for these= kinds of general topics, questions. ________________________________ [Image removed by sender.] This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. --_000_0705A91F9164914998F23A2F0BB661A9BC3717NDJSMBX101ndcnasa_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thanks Carl, yes, = I’d sure appreciate learning more about what material was used in you= rs, any special application techniques on acrylic, and who did the work.

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Thanks again,=

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Valin

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From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancai= ronline.net] On Behalf Of Carl La Rue
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 5:11 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows

 

Valin,

 

Some 13-14 years ago I= heard about a new, expensive gold film that could be applied to aircraft w= indows to cut down on internal heat.  The only place that I could find= to get it installed was at Van Nuys, CA so I flew out from OH to have it done.  It cost me about $1700, as I = remember.  The first thing I noticed was that it seemed to reduce the = interior heat by ten degrees or so.  Noticeable, anyway, to  my w= ife and me.  The second noticeable effect was that my vision through it was improved in hazy conditions.  That was/is easy = to discern because, not quite trusting the product to have it installed dir= ectly in my line of vision (the runway environment) I had it cut in a wide = arc in front of me, leaving a 6-8 inch band above and to the sides of the windshield,  and that lets me comp= are viz through it or not.

 

It has been very durab= le but, of course, I’m careful with it.  I would install it agai= n.  If you are interested in it let me know and I’ll research my= records for you.

 

Carl La Rue=

2200 hours on LIV-P N2= 99KT

.

 

 

 

 

From: Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancairon= line.net] On Behalf Of Douglas Brunner
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:24 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows

 

Valin,

 

Why do you want to do = this?  Not a criticism, just a question.

 

What I have found to b= e extremely valuable is a canopy shade that allows me to control the amount= sun that comes in.

 

D. Brunner<= /span>

 

 

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Thorn, Valin B. (JSC-VA411)
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2014 4:47 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] UV & IR Filtering Film on Acrylic Windows

 

Hello,<= /span>

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We’re lookin= g at applying ultraviolet and infrared filtering films on our Legacy’= s canopy.  Not looking to darken it since the canopy has some tinting in it already -- though, looking to filter as much UV and IR as possible.&= nbsp; There are several products from 3M, Llumar, and others with these pro= perties used on cars and glass windows every day.

 <= /span>

Has anyone one app= lied any window tinting or other films to their acrylic windows?  How = did it work out or not?

 <= /span>

Kim at Lancair is = checking with their acrylic window vendor to see what UV and IR filtering p= roperties their acrylic windows already have. 

 <= /span>

Thanks,=

 <= /span>

Valin Thorn

Legacy Project

Colorado

 <= /span>

BTW, Paul and Marv= , this is an example of a question that applies to all Lancair aircraft typ= es.  We could use a category on Lancairtalk.net for these kinds of general topics, questions. 

 <= /span>

 <= /span>

 <= /span>

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