Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67244
From: Gary Edwards <gary21sn@hotmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Lancair 320/360 performance and stability
Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2013 07:50:22 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Chris,
 
Glad you asked the question.  I went to the hanger and did some measuring and reading of the original plans.  Since I'm over 60 now, I am not responsible for my memory anymore, so the incorrect measurement information I gave previously is not my fault.
 
Now for the rest of the story.  The original building plans show:
 
Flap Measurements
Inboard flap chord length:  11 5/8"
Outboard Flap chord length: 9 1/4"
 
Flap Travel
-10 degrees flap reflex: 1 5/8"
 
I concur about the measurement differing slightly whether perpendicular to the hinges or at the actual inboard edge angle.
 
My flap: 11 7/16" (perpendicular)
            11 5/8"  (inboard edge angle)
 
My flap travel coincides roughly with the above 1 5/8" measurement.  It was difficult to get an accurate measurement as my digital flap indicator only reads whole numbers.  So there is slight variance in actual flap position whether the digital indicator is at the beginning  or at the end of a whole number (ie 10.1 to 10.9).  It is also made a bit un-precise since the flap motor coasts to a stop.
 
I imagine the 235 flaps are the same as the 320/360?  The only difference would be the 235 flaps are hinged from the top.
 
Gary 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair 320/360 performance and stability

Gary,
What is the flap chord length (center line of hinge to TE) at the root on a 235?  It must be shorter than a 320/360 given the 0.75" TE travel.
My trailing edge moves 1.48" to go from 0 to -7 degrees. 
An added complication is that the inboard edge of the flap is not perpendicular to the hinge.  If you measure along the inboard edge, you'll get a slightly longer measurement. 
Honestly, I prefer a direct angular measurement.  It takes all the geometry issues out of the equation.  I just checked the iPhone (Theodolite App) against my digital level.  The iPhone is a bit harder to read but it followed the level exactly.  The 'not free' version allows you to do screen captures.
 
Chris Zavatson
N91CZ
360std

From: Gary Edwards <gary21sn@hotmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 4:30 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair 320/360 performance and stability

Don't know if this is any help. 
 
The reflex position on the 235 airframe (same wing as the 320/360 wing) is up from the faired in with the fuselage position, which is 0 degrees.  -9 degrees is 0.75" (3/4") up from the fuselage.  So you could interpolate the distance to come up with the amount you are thinking of changing to.
 
Gary
LNC2
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