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Chris,   I'm going to re-just my flaps to -10 reflex and see what happens. =
What would you guess the measurement is up from the trailing edge of the fa=
ired in position?
            Thanks for all your work. Do you need a small tail 360 for more=
 testing?

Steve Alderman   N25SA


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From: Chris Zavatson <chris_zavatson@yahoo.com>
To: lml <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 8:54 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair 320/360 performance and stability



So I happened to be looking for something unrelated in the FB manual and ca=
me across this on page 10-24:
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"Lancair flaps are full electric actuated.  They are designed to run from +=
45 down to -10 up (reflex).  Note that the 'faired in position' for flaps i=
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My standard build manual is in storage so I could not compare.  It would ap=
pear the intent was to be able to go to -10 degrees after all.
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Chris Zavatson
N91CZ
360std
http://www.n91cz.net/



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Chris,


today I made a picture during Cruise with Autopilot at 7500ft with followin=
g configuration:
770 kg  40l in header, 20l in each wing (80l total), 75kg and 83kg for pilo=
t and co.
Flap was on 7=C2=B0 reflex  CG 26,20" =20
My design CG is 22,8  -  30,3 from firewall back,  horizontal was installed=
 - 0.6=C2=B0


So it looks like if I would add more reflex than 7=C2=B0, I would need more=
 down elevator.
So the gain with the higher reflex would be lost with the down elevator....


Christian



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<div>Chris,&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm going to re-just my flaps to -10 reflex and see=
 what happens. What would you guess the measurement is up from the trailing=
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<div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Tha=
nks for all your work. Do you need a small tail 360 for more testing?</div>

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<div>Steve Alderman&nbsp;&nbsp; N25SA</div>

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To: lml &lt;lml@lancaironline.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Sep 29, 2013 8:54 pm<br>
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair 320/360 performance and stability<br>
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<div>So I happened to be looking for something unrelated in the FB manual a=
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<div>"Lancair flaps are full electric actuated.&nbsp; They are designed to =
run from +45 down to -10 up (reflex).&nbsp; Note that the 'faired in positi=
on' for flaps is actually a -7 deg reflex position. ....."</div>

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<div>My standard build manual is in storage so I could not compare.&nbsp; I=
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<div>&nbsp;</div>

<div>Chris Zavatson</div>

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<div>today I made a picture during Cruise with Autopilot at 7500ft with fol=
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<div>Flap was on 7=C2=B0 reflex &nbsp;CG 26,20" &nbsp;</div>

<div>My design CG is 22,8 &nbsp;- &nbsp;30,3 from firewall back, &nbsp;hori=
zontal was installed - 0.6=C2=B0</div>

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<div>So it looks like if I would add more reflex than 7=C2=B0, I would need=
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