X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 08:58:45 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm39-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([72.30.239.145] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6495727 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 06:55:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=72.30.239.145; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2013 10:55:24 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.201] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2013 10:55:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 30 Sep 2013 10:55:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 259518.7689.bm@omp1010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12377 invoked by uid 60001); 30 Sep 2013 10:55:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rAOR+u6jC+9KFeCLQ7HUfwcUoAHzapF5IRnOrF+coReyP8YbqBVrxYRmBLh2j02Q5CPEvRX1MjRKG3NQYXZdYbdi3sm8mLtoBNamYIEqwg2D6BVH/5nTjpJ5EbyyJcptk5mrlaD3VoLJb+k+iIt5u8GTzIzQDqLSRA1yCF/dgmo=; X-YMail-OSG: nkKTwgEVM1mDfqs55AHb.NMJbohza6i1ed8HzIFEHn6.QTX 5Z9FKDDjgPxCMuoQ6K2Tf41lFV_nYvL__J.MewR6.xfD23w.ZGkTDvvU7ew9 lp7VxLYYZt5.1vdsPMbZYBP9g.iQzO4ty_vZ2DwBuyjpMOliMuuN59VUoETm SKojLz_7p.mfMuvUj_01vJPyHKKR2ftjlNLJeVpnyv2bz5RwgZ8Zv34Q1NkR bPQGl1dUg6PMhRh8rjoO_r6EWwqeE2VeENOn87CZ2bC6d3O9pIW8o5cS1J57 _UsZiEGi7OG7jxAcQ_8r38hwoOCIk1RAYVI0j4E7ynV0DiWr1q0Zg1LrtDXs v842PoPBszd6xaFazZdyNlbRi7QRG_P00Q0Q06I7yLOH504JUw4Rs_WhzvnY i7mmU4lcPfLf26NZHMMJg52rQ7d1Qxcptxi_y1GIrljDlBBQoMthwuzAL7cc ngvr3P455F0VhK0T1s1KzuCYW6snLU9ppXfly.k2m2K9wvNFbo_5lShcydRT ITbUvn94iRG7aRWqr3YMau7lo3DyXZSPmlmxM7N.YAkbhg4SY1SgAo98VnJc xEPpqFx01Ut.YiZpLjmWjaYtV3GwtnGL86c5MwgSx6fN.pg-- Received: from [97.92.63.83] by web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:55:23 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,VGhhdCdzIHRoZSBpbmZvIHRoYXQgd2FzIG1pc3NpbmcgZnJvbSB5b3VyIGZpcnN0IHBvc3QgLSB0aGUgUGFya2VyIHB1bXAgbWFudWFsIGFjdHVhbGx5IHNwZWNpZmllcyBBVEYsIHdoaWNoIHlvdSBzYXkgaGFzIGFib3V0IHR3aWNlIHRoZSB2aXNjb3NpdHkgb2YgNTYwNi4gwqBJIHdvdWxkIGd1ZXNzIHRoYXQgdGhlIGludGVybmFsIHB1bXAgbGVha2FnZSBtYWtlcyByZWFjaGluZyB0aGUgcmF0ZWQgcHJlc3N1cmUgcHJvYmxlbWF0aWMgd2l0aCA1NjA2LiDCoEkgd291bGQgdXNlIEFURiAtIGl0J2xsIGJlIGMBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.160.587 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1380538523.11892.YahooMailNeo@web120102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 03:55:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Suitable Hydraulic Fluid in Parker 108 Hydraulic Pack X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-1658718958-1064145122-1380538523=:11892" ---1658718958-1064145122-1380538523=:11892 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's the info that was missing from your first post - the Parker pump man= ual actually specifies ATF, which you say has about twice the viscosity of = 5606. =A0I would guess that the internal pump leakage makes reaching the ra= ted pressure problematic with 5606. =A0I would use ATF - it'll be compatibl= e with all the other seals in the hydraulic system. =A0On the other hand, 5= 606 will probably work okay - the pump is only used intermittently, so it w= on't get hot enough for the difference in viscosity to mean anything. =A0I = also suspect that the reason for the ATF spec is that the same pump is used= for lots of other things, like the tilt system in boat stern-drives and hy= draulic lifts for pickup snowplows. =A0And here you thought it was a fine F= AA-approved genuine aircraft part :-)=0AGary Casey=0A=0AThe Parker manual d= oesn't specify 5606, that's why I ask. The manual specif=3D=0Aies "ATF, OD1= 8, or other clean hydraulic oil with a viscosity of 150-300 SU=3D=0AS at 38= C", if another type is used "consult the factory"=0A=0A=0AThe label on Phil= lips 5606 states that it is not to be used on natural rubb=3D=0Aer. And the= MIL-SPEC viscosity is outside of the Parker manual's recommenda=3D=0Ation.= =0A=0A=0ATwo votes for 5606 from the List so far.=A0 Anyone have experience= with anoth=3D=0Aer fluid?=0A=0AJoe Czabaranek=0A ---1658718958-1064145122-1380538523=:11892 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's the inf= o that was missing from your first post - the Parker pump manual actually s= pecifies ATF, which you say has about twice the viscosity of 5606.  I = would guess that the internal pump leakage makes reaching the rated pressur= e problematic with 5606.  I would use ATF - it'll be compatible with a= ll the other seals in the hydraulic system.  On the other hand, 5606 w= ill probably work okay - the pump is only used intermittently, so it won't = get hot enough for the difference in viscosity to mean anything.  I al= so suspect that the reason for the ATF spec is that the same pump is used f= or lots of other things, like the tilt system in boat stern-drives and hydr= aulic lifts for pickup snowplows.  And here you thought it was a fine = FAA-approved genuine aircraft part :-)
Gary Casey

The Parker manual doesn't specify 5606, that's why I ask. Th= e manual specif=3D
ies "ATF, OD18, or other clean hydraulic oil with a v= iscosity of 150-300 SU=3D
S at 38C", if another type is used "consult th= e factory"


The label on Phillips 5606 states that it is not to b= e used on natural rubb=3D
er. And the MIL-SPEC viscosity is outside of t= he Parker manual's recommenda=3D
tion.


Two votes for 5606 fro= m the List so far.  Anyone have experience with anoth=3D
er fluid?<= br>
Joe Czabaranek

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