X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.109.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6493562 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:41:22 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.109.203; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A47EB700000B1 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mtd004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mtd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.235.205]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 71866E000082 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:40:47 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com Full-name: Sky2high Message-ID: <4d224.6b230515.3f77a9bf@aol.com> Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 23:40:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Communication To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4d224.6b230515.3f77a9bf_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 168 X-Originating-IP: [67.175.156.123] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20121107; t=1380339647; bh=iOcYmUotZ4OERZpvIjgDQpJWntI6UJGgPWZLvNgWprk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VBVOvyF120GtgioJf/fjUPOhL8NHN+RDYhWrT/y1DKanAaEPBiQFk0xAFKDna4MZc Kzc8lvjMdRLV09wtxUSfVIBM3jmOWtz/U3jqHj1XjQ+DqLrSSc9qljW5D8Qqow6dB2 K5DZ6Qfgo/zwsQHmebgdPuKbD8qbxcfD6IOraP88= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c752464fbf24ee --part1_4d224.6b230515.3f77a9bf_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Angier, For any announcement to or query from ATC, or a broadcast in the blind at an uncontrolled field, I always used Lancair 12345 (Lancair 345 after first contact) and if asked for type, responded LNC2. Yes, that is not what the AIM suggests, but it is more informative than "Experimental" 12345. "Why?" You might ask. Well, for example, I built two experimental aircraft - a 232 mph Lancair and a 110 mph "heavy" ultralight. They didn't require the same ATC treatment so why would I use the meaningless term "experimental" to describe both aircraft? Perhaps the suggestion was created when "experimental" aircraft were wood and fabric, powered by a lawn mower engine, etc. It's different now. I have never been reprimanded by the FAA or asked to phone the tower (uh, for that reason). Use whatever you think provides clarity. Grayhawk PS Ask the tower what works best for them. Of course, they have already memorized your tail number. In a message dated 9/27/2013 6:35:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time, N4ZQ@VERIZON.NET writes: Question...When identifying yourself to ground, tower, approach, etc., is it a requirement that you say you are an experimental Lancair? The local tower doesn't care and there seems to be some confusion amongst the local pilot community. Angier Ames N4ZQ 54hrs -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --part1_4d224.6b230515.3f77a9bf_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Angier,

For any announcement to or query from ATC, or a broadcast in= the=20 blind at an uncontrolled field, I always used Lancair 12345 (Lancair 345 af= ter=20 first contact) and if asked for type, responded LNC2.

Yes, that is not what the AIM suggests, but it is more informative tha= n=20 "Experimental" 12345.

"Why?" You might ask.

Well, for example, I built two experimental aircraft - a 232= mph=20 Lancair and a 110 mph "heavy" ultralight. They didn't require the sam= e ATC=20 treatment so why would I use the meaningless term "experimental" to=20 describe both aircraft?

Perhaps the suggestion was created when "experimental" aircraft=20 were wood and fabric, powered by a lawn mower engine, etc. It's= =20 different now.

I have never been reprimanded by the FAA or asked to phone t= he=20 tower (uh, for that reason).

Use whatever you think provides clarity.

Grayhawk

PS Ask the tower what works best for them. Of course, they have= =20 already memorized your tail number.

In a message dated 9/27/2013 6:35:01 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 N4ZQ@VERIZON.NET writes:

= Question...When identifying yourself to ground, tower, appro= ach,=20 etc., is it a requirement that you say you are an experimental Lancair?The=20 local tower doesn't care and there seems to be some confusion amongst the= =20 local pilot community.

Angier Ames
N4ZQ
54hrs
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