X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:32:39 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm1-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.163] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6490759 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 06:09:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.213.163; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2013 10:09:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.222] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2013 10:09:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2013 10:09:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 61693.20211.bm@omp1031.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 17384 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Sep 2013 10:09:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mRswR7pIng9p7ju7+259k3pQsWGVdmeDQtbn9sm2NPiU+5vV7SPVu64K0ymRL7FuYfWhUXhcjiereA4ju4yQAypXukxKG3MOT3NnwlJtQyPWePMrnrJEyv6DYAdm3FjfmGtE3BFYXO1vMZUVIyUj+/Ejft9z0ryeJ73A4WRArnI=; X-YMail-OSG: gDDWMLgVM1mnU3z74yIJljZUVzKucGqRckITgewQHJHdhvD oTQXyt0tqW5kByZsNYyhhxs3j30Um9ZMULy3ekUjEuztZrNlgN6grOgVk251 C6nuyI.ZHXuVPDcm.ieBp_j2V8Iy0qoltRore0m_yTiJS3W8Ob7fryz68m7z pNuN6HVFUWEEIEKxXbTpD.M0ji5JkNQC9CUhfglR.J7PG7UT_54vVpH20UcV tzWscMe8hXnCaqOzXBC9vtbmtMX8GuNUz_Z_sLbynmBk8tEZfiQd3WguB3yM af9X3W9SBPQvtAhgtplxdiOiLaV0D.y1ZsvW.LnvRHD2Ykc65FmMmo2ptOt_ hx4J8KELR7BR8luKj077KbeOVplWlB0x6Q..OICYWvHHSQN8Sf6st9zolP6E dhrmC8Cb85MrBhMv4wVtfaDy6NFaFYLVH6alNLam5f3qzU.SulfEzfWnu.nm gFRSGAEDVpdrXUG4yl_JI.V3HLeGnLNPtUTsrc06xkkSYdSZeG_ppA6Oi9mJ _4Qmn_LeGEdoSVa1ty2LEEfwJ7ZrXRUrZ9dbO3VTTxNqYPEXZ1B6hklko4Je fqTl2Zvf35Mg79VyBFK2FUvdEU.DkachpUKiwk8z7PQ2CGQ-- Received: from [97.92.63.83] by web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 03:09:24 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,VGhlIG9yaWdpbmFsIHF1ZXN0aW9uIGlzbid0IHF1aXRlIGNvbXBsZXRlLCBidXQgSSBzdXNwZWN0IGhlIGlzIHNheWluZyB0aGUgUGhpbGxpcHMgZmx1aWQgaXMgdHJ1bHkgNTYwNi4gwqBIZSBkb2Vzbid0IHNheSB0aGF0IDU2MDYgaXMgdGhlIHJlcXVpcmVkIGZsdWlkIGluIHRoZSBQYXJrZXIgcHVtcCAtIEkgc3VzcGVjdCBpdCBpcy4gwqBJIHdvdWxkbid0IHdvcnJ5IGFib3V0IHRoZSBzbWFsbCBkaWZmZXJlbmNlIGluIHZpc2Nvc2l0eS4gwqBJZiBpdCB3ZXJlIG1pbmUgSSB3b3VsZCBwdXQgaW4gdGhlIFABMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.160.587 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1380190164.14839.YahooMailNeo@web120106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 03:09:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Suitable Hydraulic Fluid in Parker 108 Hydraulic Pack X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-96787742-544222646-1380190164=:14839" ---96787742-544222646-1380190164=:14839 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The original question isn't quite complete, but I suspect he is saying the = Phillips fluid is truly 5606. =A0He doesn't say that 5606 is the required f= luid in the Parker pump - I suspect it is. =A0I wouldn't worry about the sm= all difference in viscosity. =A0If it were mine I would put in the Phillips= fluid without worry.=0A=0AThere is nothing automotive that is equivalent, = as what is labeled "brake fluid", at least DOT3, is a glycerine-based fluid= and not remotely compatible with anything in an airplane. =A0I would suspe= ct that the closest thing would be Transmission or power steering fluid, wh= ich are both petroleum-based. =A0If I were stuck on a desert and only had A= TF I would use it, but in the real world I would just bite the bullet and u= se 5606. =A0Just not worth the risk and trouble using anything else.=0AGary= Casey=0A=0A=0A=0A5606 is the correct fluid. The 5606F is flame retardant I= think. Don't put=0Aautomotive fluid in it, these are airplanes not automob= iles, besides you=0Aalready have the correct fluid.=0AI know when you put t= he wrong fluid in it you will get real good at=0Arebuilding all of your hyd= . components even if you don't want to.=0ASwaid=0A=0A=0AOn Wed, Sep 25, 201= 3 at 7:51 AM, Joseph Czabaranek=0Awrote:=0A=0A> I = have a can of Phillips 66 X/C Aviation Hydraulic Fluid that Id like to=0A> = use in my Parker 108 series hydraulic pack.=A0 MIL-PRF-5606F states that=0A= > viscosity should be ~15cSt at 38C.=A0 The Parker/Olidyne spec is ~35-65cS= t.=0A>=A0 So the Phillips fluid is less viscous and is labeled not for use = with=0A> natural rubber components.=0A>=0A> Does anyone know if this fluid = is suitable?=0A>=0A> Can someone recommend an inexpensive, automotive fluid= that has proven=0A> effective?=0A>=0A> Much appreciated=0A>=0A> Joe Czabar= anek=0A> 424DH=0A>=0A ---96787742-544222646-1380190164=:14839 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The original q= uestion isn't quite complete, but I suspect he is saying the Phillips fluid= is truly 5606.  He doesn't say that 5606 is the required fluid in the= Parker pump - I suspect it is.  I wouldn't worry about the small diff= erence in viscosity.  If it were mine I would put in the Phillips flui= d without worry.

There is nothing automo= tive that is equivalent, as what is labeled "brake fluid", at least DOT3, i= s a glycerine-based fluid and not remotely compatible with anything in an a= irplane.  I would suspect that the closest thing would be Transmission= or power steering fluid, which are both petroleum-based.  If I were stuck on a desert and only had ATF I would use it, but in the real wo= rld I would just bite the bullet and use 5606.  Just not worth the ris= k and trouble using anything else.
Gary Casey



5606 is the correct fluid. The 5606F is flame retard= ant I think. Don't put
automotive fluid in it, these are airplanes not automobiles, besides you
already have the correct fluid.
I know when= you put the wrong fluid in it you will get real good at
rebuilding all = of your hyd. components even if you don't want to.
Swaid


On W= ed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:51 AM, Joseph Czabaranek
<joeczabaranek@gmail.com&= gt;wrote:

> I have a can of Phillips 66 X/C Aviation Hydraulic Fl= uid that Id like to
> use in my Parker 108 series hydraulic pack.&nbs= p; MIL-PRF-5606F states that
> viscosity should be ~15cSt at 38C.&nbs= p; The Parker/Olidyne spec is ~35-65cSt.
>  So the Phillips flui= d is less viscous and is labeled not for use with
> natural rubber co= mponents.
>
> Does anyone know if this fluid is suitable?
>
> Can someone recommend an inexpensive, automotive= fluid that has proven
> effective?
>
> Much appreciated<= br>>
> Joe Czabaranek
> 424DH
>
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