X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 16:10:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [17.172.108.249] (HELO st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6487017 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 15:18:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.172.108.249; envelope-from=yak55m@icloud.com Received: from st11p05mm-spool002.mac.com ([17.172.109.230]) by st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0MTL00FQREX9GG40@st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:17:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-23_03:2013-09-22,2013-09-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1308280000 definitions=main-1309230102 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QebRWs7qDUAXlb4WDUR9/Q)" Received: from localhost ([17.172.108.222]) by st11p05mm-spool002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-27.08(7.0.4.27.7) 64bit (built Aug 22 2013)) with ESMTP id <0MTL002GAEX9C060@st11p05mm-spool002.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:17:33 +0000 (GMT) X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List From: andres katz Subject: Re: [LML] anti-skid (ABS) brakes on the Lancair X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:17:30 +0000 (GMT) X-Mailer: iCloud Mail (1S32) X-Originating-IP: [70.254.83.98] X-Original-Message-id: <95312dfe-ae6d-4cdf-873a-bbf7fb398623@me.com> In-reply-to: --Boundary_(ID_QebRWs7qDUAXlb4WDUR9/Q) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT cheaper? not the evo tires those low profile are expensive as hell and you need a bead breaker to replace them a car tire shop job, they wont do them if you tell them they are from airplane. On Sep 23, 2013, at 09:26 AM, Paul Miller wrote: A requirement would be to measure wheel speed. On the bike, we use hall effect sensor and ridged disk. You would need a system on each main to measure rotation speed. If the Cleveland rotor had bumps on the outside surface that would work and I would just mount the pickup to the brake caliper. That would be the starting point. directional stability could come from a yaw damper circuit or heading gyro output. Two spare main tires on the shelf might be cheaper. Paul On 2013-09-23, at 6:08, jeffrey liegner wrote: I was at the airport on this beautiful Fall day and another builder (RV6) asked me about installing an ABS braking system on the Lancair to help with stopping (without creating a flat spot). He reports that even BMW motocycles have anti-skid brakes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system BMW Motocycle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Absbrakes.jpg Has anyone given anti-skid (ABS) brakes any consideration in the Lancair? Just curious. Jeff L LIVP -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --Boundary_(ID_QebRWs7qDUAXlb4WDUR9/Q) Content-type: multipart/related; boundary="Boundary_(ID_JHq6HbeLc6PsT1LJrbmTRw)"; type="text/html" --Boundary_(ID_JHq6HbeLc6PsT1LJrbmTRw) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

cheaper? not the evo tires those low profile are expensive as hell an= d you need a bead breaker to replace them

a car tire shop job, t= hey wont do them if you tell them they are from airplane.

On Sep 23= , 2013, at 09:26 AM, Paul Miller <pjdmiller@gmail.com> wrote:

A requirement would be to measure wheel speed. On the bike, we = use hall effect sensor and ridged disk. You would need a system on each ma= in to measure rotation speed. If the Cleveland rotor had bumps on the outs= ide surface that would work and I would just mount the pickup to the brake= caliper. That would be the starting point.

directional stability= could come from a yaw damper circuit or heading gyro output.

Two= spare main tires on the shelf might be cheaper.

Paul

On= 2013-09-23, at 6:08, jeffrey liegner <liegner@ptd.net> wrote:=

I was at th= e airport on this beautiful Fall day and another builder (RV6) asked me ab= out installing an ABS braking system on the Lancair to help with stopping = (without creating a flat spot). He reports that even BMW motocycles have a= nti-skid brakes.
= http://en.= wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system
BMW Motocycle: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Absbrak= es.jpg
Has = anyone given anti-skid (ABS) brakes any consideration in the Lancair? Just= curious.
Jeff = L
LIVP
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