Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67071
From: William Rumburg <lancair403@verizon.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers
Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 08:12:49 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Roger-
 
The Vision Microsystems VM1000 obtains oil and fuel pressure by sending 5VDC to a transducer, which returns a 0 to 50 millivolt signal thats linearly proportional to pressure. All pressure transducer's function in a similar manner; however, there are several variations on the voltage transmitted and the type of electrical signal that's returned. Other systems -including your's- might use that same combination, but it's unlikely. You'd have to know the electrical parameters for the pressure transducers employed by your MFD before seeking a substitute. MFD manufacturer's tend to keep those a secret in order to make you a captive customer for replacement transducers.
 
Bill Rumburg
N403 (Sonic bOOm)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers

Hi,

Are this ones universal and will work on any MFD or monitor?

Roger


On 17.09.2013 22:40, william rossmann wrote:
Okay Bill put me in for the 50 and the 100..
Bill

From: William Rumburg <lancair403@verizon.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers

Bill-
 
MSP quoted $138 for a quantity of 1-9 and $125 for 10-50, with a lead time of 10-12 weeks and a minimum quantity of 5. These MSP's are high quality, direct-replacements for the Honeywells at less than 1/3rd the price. Another advantage is that they are furnished with 4 or 10 ft pigtails, so they can be directly connected to the DPU; no intermediate plug is necessary. It would be a smart move to purchase both a 50 and 100psi sensor for immediate replacement of the Honeywells or just to have them handy should (when) the Honeywells fail.
 
Bill Rumburg
N403WR  (Sonic bOOm)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers

Hi Bill are both 50 and 100psi MSP sensors $120.00 each..
Regards Bill

From: William Rumburg <lancair403@verizon.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:36 PM
Subject: [LML] Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers

A couple of years ago, I made a post identifying a superior -and much lower cost- Measurement Specialties Products (MSP) transducer as a replacement for the Honeywell MediMate transducer that the VMS 1000 employs for fuel pressure indication. Some tried to use that same transducer for oil pressure and reported that it didn't work, yielding a value twice the actual oil pressure. Here's why:
The 50 psi Honeywell unit that VMS employed for fuel pressure has a 50mV full output, which equates to 1mV/psi. The 100 psi MSP unit that I recommended has a 100mV full output, which also equates to 1mV/psi; so it functions perfectly as a replacement for *fuel pressure*.
The 100 psi Honeywell unit that VMS employs for oil pressure also has a 50mV full output but, in this case, that equates to .5mV/psi. With it's 1mV/psi output, the same MSP unit will not function for oil pressure; it causes an indication double the actual oil pressure. 
As stated in my post a couple of years ago, the Honeywell MediaMate is older and inferior technology, prone to failure, and -at over $400- is outrageously priced. In contrast, the MSP unit is compact, superior and modern technology at only $120.
There's another, almost identical MSP unit that has a 50mV full output and, consequently, will function perfectly for fuel and oil pressure in it's 50 and 100 psi versions. Here's the spec sheet: http://www.meas-spec.com/downloads/US300.pdf
Problem is that the combination of it's 5VDC supply voltage and 50 mV output is rarely utilized in industry, so there aren't now any available. However, I contacted one of MSP's distributors and they appear willing to place an order for the 10 unit minimum, provided that there's interest.
Let me know if you're interested, even to purchase one now for future use if your current transducer should fail.
 
Bill Rumburg
N403WR  (Sonic bOOm)   
 





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