Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #67062
From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IVP pressurization
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 10:43:29 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Yes that can work where it's a non removable part but not something I'd like to spread on the fuel and hydraulic lines running through the tunnel.

Thank you for the tip.

John

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On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:40 AM, Ted Noel <tednoel@cfl.rr.com> wrote:

One way you can fix a leak is:

If it's physically small and you can isolate its general location...

Mix up some runny micro. Smear it over the area. Pressurize.

The pressure will force the runny micro into the hole. After it sets, recheck. Repeat as needed. I used this approach with vacuum in sealing some pinholes in my fuel bays. There I just used runny epoxy since the holes were multiple, but very small individually.

Ted Noel
N540TF


On 9/19/2013 7:43 AM, John Barrett wrote:
Many of you have supplied very useful tips in response to my questions.  Since then I've found some substantial leaks that are probably the issue.  I wonder if others have had leaks in the tunnel under the spar box that hydraulic and fuel lines go through?  I have a significant one here and I fear I will have to stop it in order to get adequate pressurization. Has anyone else dealt with this after the lines are all in and the a/c is flying?  I think I can seal up the tunnel front and back but it will likely take a good bit of some kind of goop to do it.  

Thanks for any advice.
John Barrett
N31VP

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On Sep 6, 2013, at 12:40 PM, Jack Morgan <jmorgan1023@comcast.net> wrote:

Hi John,

Attached is a pic of the wedge. I used controller rather than outflow valve throughout my first posting on this. Outflow valve is a better description. You interpreted my suggestions correctly.

Here is a pic  of the wedge. Length from the bend is 4". The slot is 7/8" wide and the short angle section is 1". The overall width is 4". The slot is 2.5" deep. The piece is scrap from something on a IV..... sorry I have forgotten what but hopefully it is still lying around your shop. the other two bits are what I used to set the tension holding the outflow valve closed.

I noted a suggestion that you block off the outflow valve tub from the top and fly the airplane. Keep in mind that the over pressure pop off valve will also be disabled if you do this since if is normally in the tub. I would double check that you can't over pressurize the cabin and damage it before trying that suggestion. I assume but don't actually know that the pop off valve protection is required if the outflow valve jams closed.

My mixing box came from Lancair with the pressure dump and temp mix levers only partially tightened. One of my early discoveries was that the pressure dump flapper worked intermittently until I tightened the lever securely. You have either a big leak, bad outflow valve, or leaky pressure input to the cabin if you are only getting 1/2 PSI. I was able to get 3.5 PSI before I found my last significant leak. It was easily found with two shop vacs but not with one.

Hope this helps.

Jack
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On Sep 5, 2013, at 6:01 AM, Lancair Mailing List wrote:

From: John Barrett <2thman1@gmail.com>
Subject: IVP pressurization
Date: September 4, 2013 7:42:10 AM EDT



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