X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 08:32:29 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ns3.properformance.no ([89.221.244.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6479360 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:48:24 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=89.221.244.202; envelope-from=roger@iverin.com Received: from cm-84.210.16.177.getinternet.no ([84.210.16.177]:50955 helo=[192.168.0.23]) by ns3.properformance.no with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VM2BX-0007ET-AT for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:47:47 +0200 X-Original-Message-ID: <5238BFE7.4040300@iverin.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 22:47:35 +0200 From: Roger Iverin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080601080705000906010800" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - ns3.properformance.no X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - iverin.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: ns3.properformance.no: authenticated_id: iverin01@iverin.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080601080705000906010800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Are this ones universal and will work on any MFD or monitor? Roger On 17.09.2013 22:40, william rossmann wrote: > Okay Bill put me in for the 50 and the 100.. > Bill > > *From:* William Rumburg > *To:* lml@lancaironline.net > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:42 AM > *Subject:* [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers > > Bill- > MSP quoted $138 for a quantity of 1-9 and $125 for 10-50, with a lead > time of 10-12 weeks and a minimum quantity of 5. These MSP's are high > quality, direct-replacements for the Honeywells at less than 1/3rd the > price. Another advantage is that they are furnished with 4 or 10 ft > pigtails, so they can be directly connected to the DPU; no > intermediate plug is necessary. It would be a smart move to purchase > both a 50 and 100psi sensor for immediate replacement of the > Honeywells or just to have them handy should (when) the Honeywells fail. > Bill Rumburg > N403WR (Sonic bOOm) > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* william rossmann > *To:* lml@lancaironline.net > *Sent:* Monday, September 16, 2013 7:52 AM > *Subject:* [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure > Transducers > > Hi Bill are both 50 and 100psi MSP sensors $120.00 each.. > Regards Bill > > *From:* William Rumburg > > *To:* lml@lancaironline.net > *Sent:* Friday, September 13, 2013 9:36 PM > *Subject:* [LML] Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers > > A couple of years ago, I made a post identifying a superior > -and much lower cost- Measurement Specialties Products > (MSP) transducer as a replacement for the Honeywell MediMate > transducer that the VMS 1000 employs for fuel pressure indication. > Some tried to use that same transducer for oil pressure and > reported that it didn't work, yielding a value twice the actual > oil pressure. Here's why: > The 50 psi Honeywell unit that VMS employed for fuel pressure > has a 50mV full output, which equates to 1mV/psi. The 100 psi MSP > unit that I recommended has a 100mV full output, which also > equates to 1mV/psi; so it functions perfectly as a replacement for > *fuel pressure*. > The 100 psi Honeywell unit that VMS employs for oil pressure also > has a 50mV full output but, in this case, that equates to > .5mV/psi. With it's 1mV/psi output, the same MSP unit will not > function for oil pressure; it causes an indication double the > actual oil pressure. > As stated in my post a couple of years ago, the Honeywell > MediaMate is older and inferior technology, prone to failure, and > -at over $400- is outrageously priced. In contrast, the MSP unit > is compact, superior and modern technology at only $120. > There's another, almost identical MSP unit that has a 50mV full > output and, consequently, will function perfectly for fuel and oil > pressure in it's 50 and 100 psi versions. Here's the spec sheet: > http://www.meas-spec.com/downloads/US300.pdf > Problem is that the combination of it's 5VDC supply voltage and 50 > mV output is rarely utilized in industry, so there aren't now any > available. However, I contacted one of MSP's distributors and they > appear willing to place an order for the 10 unit minimum, provided > that there's interest. > Let me know if you're interested, even to purchase one now for > future use if your current transducer should fail. > Bill Rumburg > N403WR (Sonic bOOm) > > > > --------------080601080705000906010800 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hi,

Are this ones universal and will work on any MFD or monitor?

Roger


On 17.09.2013 22:40, william rossmann wrote:
Okay Bill put me in for the 50 and the 100..
Bill

From: William Rumburg <lancair403@verizon.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers

Bill-
 
MSP quoted $138 for a quantity of 1-9 and $125 for 10-50, with a lead time of 10-12 weeks and a minimum quantity of 5. These MSP's are high quality, direct-replacements for the Honeywells at less than 1/3rd the price. Another advantage is that they are furnished with 4 or 10 ft pigtails, so they can be directly connected to the DPU; no intermediate plug is necessary. It would be a smart move to purchase both a 50 and 100psi sensor for immediate replacement of the Honeywells or just to have them handy should (when) the Honeywells fail.
 
Bill Rumburg
N403WR  (Sonic bOOm)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:52 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers

Hi Bill are both 50 and 100psi MSP sensors $120.00 each..
Regards Bill

From: William Rumburg <lancair403@verizon.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:36 PM
Subject: [LML] Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers

A couple of years ago, I made a post identifying a superior -and much lower cost- Measurement Specialties Products (MSP) transducer as a replacement for the Honeywell MediMate transducer that the VMS 1000 employs for fuel pressure indication. Some tried to use that same transducer for oil pressure and reported that it didn't work, yielding a value twice the actual oil pressure. Here's why:
The 50 psi Honeywell unit that VMS employed for fuel pressure has a 50mV full output, which equates to 1mV/psi. The 100 psi MSP unit that I recommended has a 100mV full output, which also equates to 1mV/psi; so it functions perfectly as a replacement for *fuel pressure*.
The 100 psi Honeywell unit that VMS employs for oil pressure also has a 50mV full output but, in this case, that equates to .5mV/psi. With it's 1mV/psi output, the same MSP unit will not function for oil pressure; it causes an indication double the actual oil pressure. 
As stated in my post a couple of years ago, the Honeywell MediaMate is older and inferior technology, prone to failure, and -at over $400- is outrageously priced. In contrast, the MSP unit is compact, superior and modern technology at only $120.
There's another, almost identical MSP unit that has a 50mV full output and, consequently, will function perfectly for fuel and oil pressure in it's 50 and 100 psi versions. Here's the spec sheet: http://www.meas-spec.com/downloads/US300.pdf
Problem is that the combination of it's 5VDC supply voltage and 50 mV output is rarely utilized in industry, so there aren't now any available. However, I contacted one of MSP's distributors and they appear willing to place an order for the 10 unit minimum, provided that there's interest.
Let me know if you're interested, even to purchase one now for future use if your current transducer should fail.
 
Bill Rumburg
N403WR  (Sonic bOOm)   
 





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