X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:40:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm25-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.212.155] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTPS id 6479299 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 16:11:29 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.212.155; envelope-from=flyer2377@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2013 20:10:53 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.227] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2013 20:10:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2013 20:10:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 818958.12672.bm@omp1036.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 90159 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2013 20:10:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=16j7d4DxlrtepsMkZboH61IjUaVqNAcwvAl0tu9w5tT4eDvEhxgbLXWHiAtDPRJ3eTK9mDmZJ1x6/cIElVKjjJiWz9tTXk6fTryqW7RcIYM7PENveZGJbpOPZ8PYkmBUsjNcuY9ygPOSOM5oHXPigQC+4O36jW5gl8rqiPYPl+M=; X-YMail-OSG: YTOxA8IVM1kCiKaRkOL4MHpEf6_tZ9Z34Mtfz.KMbdX.IGz MvBXxUiwEV.hfQlf4e2yT Received: from [68.236.203.171] by web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:10:53 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,T2theSBCaWxsIHB1dCBtZSBpbiBmb3IgdGhlIDUwIGFuZCB0aGUgMTAwLi4KQmlsbAogCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogV2lsbGlhbSBSdW1idXJnIDxsYW5jYWlyNDAzQHZlcml6b24ubmV0PgpUbzogbG1sQGxhbmNhaXJvbmxpbmUubmV0IApTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBTZXB0ZW1iZXIgMTcsIDIwMTMgNzo0MiBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbTE1MXSBSZTogUmVwbGFjZW1lbnQgVk1TMTAwMCBGdWVsIGFuZCBPaWwgUHJlc3N1cmUgVHJhbnNkdWNlcnMKICAKCgogCkJpbGwtIAoBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.157.561 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1379448653.89466.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:10:53 -0700 (PDT) From: william rossmann Reply-To: william rossmann Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="1060583355-1017015311-1379448653=:89466" --1060583355-1017015311-1379448653=:89466 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Okay Bill put me in for the 50 and the 100..=0ABill=0A =0A=0A______________= __________________=0A From: William Rumburg =0ATo: = lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:42 AM=0ASubjec= t: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers=0A =0A= =0A=0A =0ABill- =0A=A0 =0AMSP quoted $138 for a quantity of 1-9 and $125 fo= r =0A10-50, with a lead time of 10-12 weeks and a minimum quantity of 5.=A0= These =0AMSP's=A0are high quality, direct-replacements for the =0AHoneywell= s=A0at=A0less than=A01/3rd the price. Another=A0advantage =0Ais that they a= re furnished with 4 or 10 ft pigtails, so they can be directly =0Aconnected= to the DPU; no intermediate plug is necessary. It would be a smart =0Amove= to purchase both a 50 and 100psi sensor for immediate replacement of the = =0AHoneywells or just to have them handy should (when)=A0the =0AHoneywells= =A0fail. =0A=A0 =0ABill Rumburg =0AN403WR=A0 (Sonic bOOm) =0A----- Original= Message ----- =0A>From: william rossmann =0A>To: lml@lancaironline.net = =0A>Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 7:52 AM =0A>Subject: [LML] Re: Repla= cement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers =0A>=0A> =0A>Hi Bill are = both 50 and 100psi MSP sensors $120.00 each.. =0A>Regards Bill =0A>=0A> = =0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>From: William Rumburg =0A>To: lml@lancaironline.net =0A>Sent: Friday, September 1= 3, 2013 9:36 PM=0A>Subject: [LML] Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressu= re Transducers=0A> =0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>A couple of years ago, I made=A0a post= =A0identifying a superior -and=A0much lower cost- Measurement Specialties = Products (MSP)=A0transducer as a replacement for the Honeywell MediMate tr= ansducer that the VMS 1000 employs for fuel pressure indication. Some trie= d=A0to use=A0that same transducer for=A0oil pressure and reported that it = didn't work, yielding a value twice the actual oil pressure. Here's why: = =0A>The=A050 psi Honeywell unit=A0that VMS employed for fuel pressure has= =A0a 50mV full output, which equates to 1mV/psi. The 100 psi MSP unit that= I recommended has a 100mV full output, which also equates to 1mV/psi; so = it functions perfectly as a replacement for *fuel pressure*. =0A>The 100 p= si Honeywell unit that VMS employs for oil pressure also has a 50mV full o= utput but, in this case, that=A0equates to .5mV/psi.=A0With it's=A01mV/psi= output, the same MSP unit will not function for oil pressure; it causes a= n indication=A0double the actual oil pressure.=A0=0A>As stated in my post = a couple of years ago, the Honeywell =0A MediaMate is older and inferior t= echnology, prone to failure, and -at over =0A $400- is outrageously priced= . In contrast, the MSP unit is compact, superior =0A and modern=A0technolo= gy at=A0only $120. =0A>There's another, almost identical MSP unit that ha= s a 50mV full output and, consequently,=A0will function perfectly for fuel= and oil pressure in it's 50 and 100 psi versions. Here's the spec sheet: h= ttp://www.meas-spec.com/downloads/US300.pdf =0A>Problem is that the combina= tion of=A0it's 5VDC supply voltage and 50 mV output=A0is=A0rarely=A0utiliz= ed in industry,=A0so there aren't now any available. However, I contacted = one of=A0MSP's distributors and they appear willing to=A0place an order= =A0for the 10 unit minimum, provided that there's interest. =0A>Let me kno= w if you're interested, even to purchase one now for future use if your cu= rrent transducer should fail. =0A>=A0 =0A>Bill Rumburg =0A>N403WR=A0 (Soni= c bOOm)=A0=A0=A0 =0A>=A0=0A>=0A> --1060583355-1017015311-1379448653=:89466 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Okay Bill = put me in for the 50 and the 100..
Bill
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From: William Rumburg <lancair403@ver= izon.net>
To: lml@l= ancaironline.net
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:42 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pres= sure Transducers

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MSP quoted $138 for a quant= ity of 1-9 and $125 for =0A10-50, with a lead time of 10-12 weeks and a min= imum quantity of 5. These =0AMSP's are high quality, direct-repla= cements for the =0AHoneywells at less than 1/3rd the price. = Another advantage =0Ais that they are furnished with 4 or 10 ft pigtai= ls, so they can be directly =0Aconnected to the DPU; no intermediate plug i= s necessary. It would be a smart =0Amove to purchase both a 50 and 100psi s= ensor for immediate replacement of the =0AHoneywells or just to have them h= andy should (when) the =0AHoneywells fail.
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Bill Rumburg
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Subject: [LML] Re: Replacement VMS1000 =0A Fuel and Oil Pressure= Transducers
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Hi Bill are both 50 a= nd 100psi MSP sensors $120.00 =0A each..
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From: William Rumburg =0A <lancair403@verizon.net>
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Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:36 =0A PM
Subject: [LML] Replacement = =0A VMS1000 Fuel and Oil Pressure Transducers
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A couple of years ago, I made a =0A post identifying = a superior -and much lower cost- Measurement =0A Specialties Products= (MSP) transducer as a replacement for the Honeywell =0A MediMate tra= nsducer that the VMS 1000 employs for fuel pressure indication. =0A Some t= ried to use that same transducer for oil pressure and =0A r= eported that it didn't work, yielding a value twice the actual oil pressure= . =0A Here's why:
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The 50 psi Honeywell unit th= at VMS =0A employed for fuel pressure has a 50mV full output, which e= quates to =0A 1mV/psi. The 100 psi = MSP unit that I =0A recommended has a 100mV full output, which also equate= s to 1mV/psi; so it =0A functions perfectly as a replacement for *fuel pre= ssure*.
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The 100 psi H= oneywell unit that VMS employs for =0A oil pressure also has a 50mV full o= utput but, in this case, that equates =0A to .5mV/psi. With it's=  1mV/psi =0A output, the same = MSP unit will not function for oil pressure; it causes an =0A indication&n= bsp;double the actual oil pressure. 
As stated in my post a couple of years ago, the Honeywell =0A Med= iaMate is older and inferior technology, prone to failure, and -at over =0A= $400- is outrageously priced. In contrast, the MSP unit is compact, super= ior =0A and modern technology at only $120.
=0A There's another, almost identical MSP un= it that =0A has a 50mV full output and, consequently, will function p= erfectly for =0A fuel and oil pressure in it's 50 and 100 psi versions. He= re's the spec sheet: =0A http://www.meas-spec.com/downloa= ds/US300.pdf
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Prob= lem is that the combination of it's 5VDC =0A supply voltage and 50 mV= output is rarely utilized in =0A industry, so there a= ren't now any available. However, I contacted one =0A of MSP's distri= butors and they appear willing to place an =0A order for the 10 = unit minimum, provided that there's =0A interest.
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Let me know if you're interested, even to =0A= purchase one now for future use if your current transducer should =0A fa= il.
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Bill Rumburg
=0A <= div>N403WR  (Sonic =0A bOOm) &nb= sp; 
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