X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 01:56:24 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm14-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([216.39.63.222] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTPS id 6461672 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 09:09:00 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.39.63.222; envelope-from=cwfmd@yahoo.com Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2013 13:08:24 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.162] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2013 13:08:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2013 13:08:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 356904.19749.bm@omp1028.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56633 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Sep 2013 13:08:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EnUjkOdtCg6tz2RF5LrSF33FDgIe3VU/fwsB0OVITt/01ZD5uyvs2+dgqVTXYVhggD4J8cKdxBcEAEMA2rJi+Btu2xR7QSXLJWkWYbscGxIXNKBwW4/fv7xZgtSpHOhBfUUh7fKyHgr9Sjs0O/DHs7KwYvnfWGa73ZnAU0JJJF4=; X-YMail-OSG: mrOm9eAVM1l9Q.6fPZzD7_GuDlWURkXMVrnAXm.q7mCcG0C zAS_k9l1e9RQshaDCBCsV0beTF.dzhSWx54wR9qsAs4gKbD0Z6W016sraaEa Leqz4khV3sy1HBzv2Y3yya0POzCw3bGiKPeWwTcOb1EZrVKyIj1PIu1_qh46 Yz9YSjQVs44k7V90G2uTOMGl14M_avN.JObfE5dn1wLAodMv50F6Bb9CcFEJ 6M66Gq4GUA7mHDf4Hf3rFVj7uksDv_jYvFdPSPP5uFGlsgdgEp2crlqYUi7D s5yOrXAOfvL3lb0DIPZboeh1b67075.SNkUQtop8Yv7lP1GgLrh4zo4ZHkGk ZT1OtrTmPXef.NAInYrkh2mhj2AvzUYyyL2DghQkC3EkX9n.fkGaoU_qzrS_ WdrnvG.hPTzvzimlsXL_D8Vmx.4q1MdipKnxq2gcvq_4oEowqorLZgWTDFaj GDSBv5wG8O9db7fCk2W0x0i46i8.rJT8I9tyRGn3On.noDLcCL0jrusE3_6Z 40AtMwxLjp3gpTnW0JRRZujPo_WwjYBBPdeiL_aDx5Z676J0M1.bSKtn.fA6 _yxLREtQ6IKqVfkZWnxsBBOfbj1ISh.OcswJF9RXp8aDvD6WKnMdkWQaLHMg hqp0LFKFuTn7CJOIFnc347B3rvmQOtaU2tXhKUHjMZRODbdaSdq1aAcs8AkU mj.zQS3QXBpTMCyGdWKY9WBFKNuVfO6pg_1bTE20uGlCbfwz73Y731Mvf Received: from [98.196.182.216] by web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 06:08:23 PDT X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 002.001,CgpsaW5rIHRvIHBpY3R1cmUgb2YgQS02IEludHJ1ZGVyIGNvY2twaXQgZGVwaWN0aW5nIGhvb2QsIG92ZXIgcmFkYXIgc2NvcGUsIG9uIHJpZ2h0IHBhbmVsCgpCTiA9IEJvbWJhZGllci1OYXZpZ2F0b3IgcGFuZWwKCgpodHRwOi8vZm90b2RqLmNvbS9lbGVtZW50cy8yMDAxL1BpdHRzYnVyZ2glMjBBaXIlMjBTaG93L1N0YXRpYyUyMERpc3BsYXklMjBQaWN0dXJlcy9zbGlkZXMvWkc1NV81MDkuanBnCgotLS0tLSBGb3J3YXJkZWQgTWVzc2FnZSAtLS0tLQpGcm9tOiAiY3dmbWRAeWFob28uY29tIiA8Y3dmbWQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.156.576 References: <1378817544.26620.YahooMailNeo@web181706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1378817779.98478.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Message-ID: <1378818503.55058.YahooMailNeo@web181701.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 06:08:23 -0700 (PDT) From: cwfmd@yahoo.com Reply-To: cwfmd@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: dim displays X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing In-Reply-To: <1378817779.98478.YahooMailNeo@web181703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-965327069-1115957666-1378818503=:55058" ---965327069-1115957666-1378818503=:55058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii link to picture of A-6 Intruder cockpit depicting hood, over radar scope, on right panel BN = Bombadier-Navigator panel http://fotodj.com/elements/2001/Pittsburgh%20Air%20Show/Static%20Display%20Pictures/slides/ZG55_509.jpg ----- Forwarded Message ----- From: "cwfmd@yahoo.com" To: Lancair Mailing Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:56 AM Subject: dim displays I'm no expert on the iPad, but I was a USN Flight Surgeon(and Test Pilot) (and stayed at a Navy Inn ). We had technology issues for years, 1980s-90s, to get the cockpit displays bright enough to use in daylight. Its just really hard to compete with bright sunlight. These guys are doing a good job using a mass market display (on the iPad), but it will always be limited, by bright daylight, compared to the much more expensive certified ($$$$) aviation displays. Bottom line- there may be some setup and usage tricks, but in general, its not you, or your eyes, its a technology challenge. If you shield and shade the ipad(or any mass market handheld device), and your eyes to adjust to the dimmer light, you can see it. In the A-6, Intruder, we used a big hood for daytime ops to see the dim but informative radar display on a "cathode ray tube" Bill Miller ---965327069-1115957666-1378818503=:55058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

link to picture of A-6 Intruder cockpit depicting hood, over radar scope, on right panel
BN = Bombadier-Navigator panel

http://fotodj.com/elements/2001/Pittsburgh%20Air%20Show/Static%20Display%20Pictures/slides/ZG55_509.jpg

----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "cwfmd@yahoo.com" <cwfmd@yahoo.com>
To: Lancair Mailing <lml@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 7:56 AM
Subject: dim displays




I'm no expert on the iPad, but I was a USN Flight Surgeon(and Test Pilot) (and stayed at a Navy Inn ). We had technology issues for years, 1980s-90s, to get the cockpit displays bright enough to use in daylight. Its just really hard to compete with bright sunlight. These guys are doing a good job using a mass market display (on the iPad), but it will always be limited, by bright daylight, compared to the much more expensive certified ($$$$) aviation displays.
Bottom line- there may be some setup and usage tricks, but in general, its not you, or your eyes, its a technology challenge. If you shield and shade the ipad(or any mass market handheld device), and your eyes to adjust to the dimmer light, you can see it. In the A-6, Intruder, we used a big hood for daytime ops to see the dim but informative radar display on a "cathode ray tube"

Bill Miller




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