X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 18:46:39 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [207.46.163.212] (HELO na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.6) with ESMTPS id 6460847 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 15:44:38 -0400 Received-SPF: error receiver=logan.com; client-ip=207.46.163.212; envelope-from=lancair-esp@ustek.com Received: from BL2PR04MB020.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.228.25) by BL2PR04MB018.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.228.14) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.745.25; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 19:44:00 +0000 Received: from BL2PR04MB020.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.5.67]) by BL2PR04MB020.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.5.247]) with mapi id 15.00.0745.000; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 19:43:59 +0000 From: Lancair-ESP X-Original-To: Robert R Pastusek , Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Teardown and check TSIO550? 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Thread-Index: AQHOrZM9/9vDShLiW0a/xdRN2NAhcpm9zImA X-Original-Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 19:43:58 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: References: <41361035E6613244A377D5AC3BF5EFDD668A64BD@CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> In-Reply-To: <41361035E6613244A377D5AC3BF5EFDD668A64BD@CH1PRD0710MB367.namprd07.prod.outlook.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [70.62.14.122] x-forefront-prvs: 09645BAC66 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(189002)(199002)(377454003)(51914003)(13464003)(51856001)(19580395003)(80976001)(83072001)(83322001)(19580405001)(65816001)(66066001)(69226001)(80022001)(81686001)(49866001)(81816001)(50986001)(76796001)(76786001)(47736001)(33646001)(76576001)(47976001)(74316001)(74706001)(74662001)(74876001)(31966008)(4396001)(74502001)(47446002)(74366001)(54356001)(53806001)(76482001)(59766001)(77982001)(56776001)(54316002)(46102001)(56816003)(77096001)(81542001)(81342001)(79102001)(63696002)(24736002);DIR:OUT;SFP:;SCL:1;SRVR:BL2PR04MB018;H:BL2PR04MB020.namprd04.prod.outlook.com;CLIP:70.62.14.122;RD:InfoNoRecords;MX:1;A:1;LANG:en; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: ustek.com Bob, There are only 375 hrs on the engine during which time I had not a spec of = problem except for one cracked cylinder seat (Performance replaced the cyli= nder at NC). =20 I take off with the aux pump on, and I have tested the aux and know it is w= orking. Not surging, but power seems reduced. =20 Prof. Klaus has offer a couple suggestions and I will have him check the EI= before I do anything truly expensive. Thanks for the note about "idle" fo= r restart. Changing shorts in flight is a hassle. =20 Robert ES-P N301ES -----Original Message----- From: Robert R Pastusek [mailto:rpastusek@htii.com]=20 Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 1:04 PM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: RE: [LML] Teardown and check TSIO550? Robert, You did not say how much time you had on your engine, but if it's not yet t= o recommended overhaul--which you imply by suggesting an inspection rather = than an overhaul, AND the temps/oil pressure are normal, I'd look for the = cause of roughness. =20 The first suspect for me would be the magnetos, and after that, the rest of= the ignition system. Then the fuel system. Problems with either will cause= variations in the CHT/EGT/TITs, but they might be subtle. The ignition sys= tem is more highly loaded/stressed during high power climbs; if the mags, s= park plugs or wiring are breaking down under this load, any of these compon= ents will cause the engine to run rough, and it should be a "steady" roughn= ess. An in-flight mag check during roughness will isolate this quickly, but= be careful. If the engine quits during this check, you need to pull the th= rottle to idle before turning the mags back to both. Not doing so will caus= e a very loud bang, and could damage the engine/turbos/exhaust system. If the engine "surges" rather than exhibits steady roughness, suspect the f= uel system. Turning the boost pump on low, if it's not already on, should h= elp isolate a fuel issue. If it is on, try high boost...but you may need to= lean the mixture to keep the engine running. I don't want to discourage you from finding/correcting the problem...and fe= rrying it around to different shops with a known problem is just not smart!= There are things that warrant teardown and inspect/overhaul. What you desc= ribe, given that I am not there/don't have specifics, suggests some good lo= cal troubleshooting before tearing the engine apart however... My two cents. Bob My engine started to run rough on climb out, cleared up, and ran rough agai= n. =20 All the inflight temps and flows were completely in line with previous flig= hts. Ran a new conditional and found nothing amiss. Compressions good, plugs cl= ean, oil filter had no metallic. =20 Ferried it to Kelly Aerospace for work on the A/C and de-ice (mice in the w= ing!) and the 45 minute flight was uneventful. However when Kelly flight tested the plane it seemed sluggish and it ran ro= ugh again. Thinking about a tear down and inspection but not expecting a complete rebu= ild. =20 Anyone recommended who could be within 1 hr or so of central Ohio?