X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:01:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from fmailhost06.isp.att.net ([204.127.217.106] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 6077638 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:59:58 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.127.217.106; envelope-from=bbradburry@bellsouth.net Received: from desktop (adsl-98-85-148-245.mco.bellsouth.net[98.85.148.245]) by isp.att.net (frfwmhc06) with SMTP id <20130222155922H06004usr4e>; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:59:22 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [98.85.148.245] From: "Bill Bradburry" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Missing Dukes outflow valve X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:59:23 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <760557B4AB814DB699DDE5C3491557B6@Desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0013_01CE10EB.AD2BA240" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac4RD+aFpmrPfr0lQX61+U3JPlk/2AABQbvw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18463 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CE10EB.AD2BA240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You may be able to get a list of tail numbers of crashed aircraft from someone on this list. Then you can go to the FAA website to get the name and address of the owner. You can write to the owner with snail mail and possibly find who now has the wreckage. It could be a sensitive issue since many probably didn't survive. Bill _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tom & Beth Sullivan Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 10:19 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Missing Dukes outflow valve Bob, Jeff and Bill, Thanks for the replies. I am doing a turbine and converted to 24 volt a long time ago. I am wondering, before I drop over $10k on a new one, if anyone may know of where I can check on salvage on one of the IVP's that have had misfortune (not sure how to say this without sounding morbid). Unfortunately, there have been more of those planes with untimely endings that we like to talk about. It could be possible the valve survived. Anyone know where I may find someone with salvage IVP parts? Tom Sullivan ----- Original Message ----- From: vtailjeff@aol.com To: Lancair Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [LML] Missing Dukes outflow valve Tom, The valve is part of the kit but at that time it usually shipped separately as it was always back ordered. Probably slipped through the crack. Jeff Sent from my iPad On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Tom & Beth Sullivan" wrote: Well, I am working on systems for my IVPT and went to install my Dukes pressurization valve and couldn't find it. I inventoried everything when I received the kit by part number, and according to the manual the part number is 50.... something. Nothing in the box of part numbers beginning with 5. After a call to Michelle at Lancair, finding out the price on this, I went through ALL my parts boxes and no valve. I pulled my original packing slips and no valve was listed or checked in. I bought the pressurized kit, so thought that came with it? Anyone with a circa 1999 kit shed some light on whether the valve came with the kit? Needless to say, 14 years gone past (my problem) and two owners of Lancair since I purchased my kit, I don't expect anything from the current Lancair company. But, $10K plus was not an expected expenditure for a part I thought came with my original purchase. Just for the record, Michelle went above and beyond this week researching records for me. I had exchanged a bunch of my electrics with Vern not too long after my purchase, changing from 12 volt to 24 volt. She was able to access Vern's records and verify this was NOT one of the items I exchanged. She also noted it didn't appear I was ever shipped one on my original order (which seems to agree with my packing slips). Tom Sullivan ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01CE10EB.AD2BA240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

You may be able to get a list of = tail numbers of crashed aircraft from someone on this list. Then you can go = to the FAA website to get the name and address of the owner.  You can = write to the owner with snail mail and possibly find who now has the = wreckage.  It could be a sensitive issue since many probably didn’t = survive.

 

Bill

 

From: = Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Tom & Beth = Sullivan
Sent: Friday, February = 22, 2013 10:19 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: = Missing Dukes outflow valve

 

Bob, Jeff and Bill,

 

Thanks for the replies.

 

   I am doing a turbine and converted to 24 = volt a long time ago.  I am wondering, before I drop over $10k on a new = one, if anyone may know of where I can check on salvage on one of the IVP's that = have had misfortune (not sure how to say this without sounding morbid).  Unfortunately, there have been more of those planes with untimely = endings that we like to talk about.  It could be possible the valve = survived.

 

Anyone know where I may find someone with salvage IVP = parts?

 

Tom Sullivan

----- Original Message ----- =

Sent: = Wednesday, February 20, 2013 7:48 PM

Subject: Re: = [LML] Missing Dukes outflow valve

 

Tom,

 

The valve is part of the kit but at that time it usually shipped separately as it was always back ordered. Probably slipped through the = crack.

 

Jeff

Sent from my iPad


On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:28 PM, "Tom & Beth Sullivan" <toms1@chartermi.net> = wrote:

   Well, I am working on systems for my = IVPT and went to install my Dukes pressurization valve and couldn't find = it.  I inventoried everything when I received the kit by part number, and = according to the manual the part number is 50.... something.  Nothing in the box = of part numbers beginning with 5.  After a call to Michelle at = Lancair, finding out the price on this, I went through ALL my parts boxes and no = valve.  I pulled my original packing slips and no valve was listed or = checked in.  I bought the pressurized kit, so thought that came with = it?  Anyone with a circa 1999 kit shed some light on whether the valve came = with the kit?

 

   Needless to say, 14 years gone past (my problem) and two owners of Lancair since I purchased my kit, I don't = expect anything from the current Lancair company.  But, $10K plus was not = an expected expenditure for a part I thought came with my original = purchase.

 

   Just for the record, Michelle went above = and beyond this week researching records for me.  I had exchanged a = bunch of my electrics with Vern not too long after my purchase, changing from 12 = volt to 24 volt.  She was able to access Vern's records and verify this was = NOT one of the items I exchanged.  She also noted it didn't appear I = was ever shipped one on my original order (which seems to agree with my packing = slips).

 

Tom Sullivan

 

 

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