X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:27:20 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-ye0-f178.google.com ([209.85.213.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 6075338 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 08:31:54 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.213.178; envelope-from=mehapgood@gmail.com Received: by mail-ye0-f178.google.com with SMTP id q9so376684yen.9 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:31:18 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.120.206 with SMTP id p54mr43802457yhh.77.1361453478819; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:31:18 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.2.96] (rrcs-70-61-86-226.midsouth.biz.rr.com. [70.61.86.226]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d4sm76982214anh.21.2013.02.21.05.31.13 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Feb 2013 05:31:17 -0800 (PST) X-Original-Sender: Matt Hapgood User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.1.130117 X-Original-Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 08:31:07 -0500 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: G900 and Sorcerer From: Matt Hapgood X-Original-To: Lancair List , X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: G900 and Sorcerer In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3444280276_30447690" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3444280276_30447690 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Charlie, Excuse me if I am telling you something you already know=8A but my experience is that a thinner seat BACK had a much great impact on the knee-to-panel clearance. My initial experiments with seat bottom cushion were disappoint= , and then one day I modified the seat back cushion and my situation was greatly improved.=20 Matt From: Charles Brown < > Reply-To: Lancair List Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:42 AM To: Lancair List Subject: [LML] Re: G900 and Sorcerer Jon makes a very good point that I had forgotten, about structure. The Lancair panel blank with huge cutouts for the displays and audio panel, and the LRU rack, truly lack any significant structural strength and if simply rested on the center console and the sidewall mounts, I feel sure it would flex a lot in steep turns or turbulence. I designed a support consisting o= f two struts mounted on the center console at the nosewheel tunnel, supportin= g a horizontal aluminum angle/beam that supports the LRU rack. And there's a rubber pad on the upper side of the angle for vibration isolation. Pic enclosed. I have not had any issues with panel flex or vibration. (not sure anyone else has either; just saying mine happens to work) -- Charley Second pic enclosed -- initial fit check. Note that the panel is as far forward as possible on the center console, and still my knees barely clear. It's worse with typical seat pads. My passengers' knees have hit the autopilot up/down switch on occasion, which is REALLY interesting when it happens on a coupled approach. This is a go-around signal (whether you hit up OR down) and the Sorceror immed commands 500 fpm climb. On Feb 20, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Jon Socolof wrote: ...It=B9s heavy for a Legacy and requires a lot of thought to support the panel. ... =20 Jon --B_3444280276_30447690 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Charlie,

Excuse me if I am telling you something you already knowR= 30; but my experience is that a thinner seat BACK had a much great impact on= the knee-to-panel clearance.  My initial experiments with seat bottom = cushion were disappoint, and then one day I modified the seat back cushion a= nd my situation was greatly improved. 

Matt

From: Charles Br= own < >Reply-To: Lancair List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: Thursday, February 21, 2013 7:42 AM
To: Lancair List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Re: G900 and Sorcerer

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Jon makes a very = good point that I had forgotten, about structure.  The Lancair panel bl= ank with huge cutouts for the displays and audio panel, and the LRU rack, tr= uly lack any significant structural strength and if simply rested on the cen= ter console and the sidewall mounts, I feel sure it would flex a lot in stee= p turns or turbulence.  I designed a support consisting of two struts m= ounted on the center console at the nosewheel tunnel, supporting a horizonta= l aluminum angle/beam that supports the LRU rack.  And there's a rubber= pad on the upper side of the angle for vibration isolation.  Pic enclo= sed.  I have not had any issues with panel flex or vibration.  (no= t sure anyone else has either; just saying mine happens to work)  -- Ch= arley
Second pic enclosed -- initial fit check.  Note that th= e panel is as far forward as possible on the center console, and still my kn= ees barely clear.  It's worse with typical seat pads.  My passenge= rs' knees have hit the autopilot up/down switch on occasion, which is REALLY= interesting when it happens on a coupled approach.  This is a go-aroun= d signal (whether you hit up OR down) and the Sorceror immed commands 500 fp= m climb.



On = Feb 20, 2013, at 7:28 PM, Jon Socolof wrote:

...It’s heavy for a Legacy and requires a = lot of thought to support the panel. ...
 
Jon

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