X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 21:46:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.44.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTPS id 5992353 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:38:55 -0500 Received-SPF: neutral receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.44.146; envelope-from=browncc1@verizon.net Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2013 00:38:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.85.46] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2013 00:38:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2013 00:38:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 593203.34453.bm@smtp103.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: wSQA5yQVM1nPhZTfirUZ8W0kaNWObpqP5GOxdpZVd98zYq9 pNqG3aiwAINF4EKEnsd0kfcytxZoZgPrHhJwX5w10p11QVBFmq0vGQZrzREZ XmjbhevBeDUajHHFwe2fhT18ToYaoQROE7u9.EVHYx5ZDimFJ190fUn0.SMy vCnWo3oVBfW2iO6SOed0gYUHWJUGNJjGv3ypUEFM9Os8B33iSpje4QyHLixF YXOmW3lP8hubOtkLQ1.i7ArTiM7oEzQfc8RJ1Qib5_OEkZbeoLJnQvyjHfzc zKI.RmcSgv6.PutJp7MqIFu1bZyuAWGPfZr3b8q6MeNliInQaxVu_qrs8WxQ 7cNoK41.GXrVTYODv8vpQuObQYG_W6ibSiU5v9pkzaIc72lfaLG3PPQ9KVyX Yd18LRJbWkQVf9pgLj99LaQLT32mOxA3VWoumb1xLf0MBnjVP1yejRykQfD5 g0xKK4VUmqV.NKotd14SOsl2kkTA- X-Yahoo-SMTP: F49l9g6swBC0R9n8vJIbm7Tf3P8Xlmia8rHIwTlO__Ml Received: from chass-imac-2.home (browncc1@72.64.105.53 with plain) by smtp103.vzn.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jan 2013 00:38:20 +0000 UTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: stalls From: Charles Brown In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 18:38:18 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <5AEDB82E-3AD0-4BA5-970C-56C1C4CFF4A1@verizon.net> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) Andres -- just out of curiosity... does Hipat actually encourage steep = bank angles during these turns, or do you mean that the airplane's = *descending* at a steep angle (and the bank angles are fairly normal, = like 30 deg)? -- Charley Brown On Jan 2, 2013, at 8:45 AM, Andres Katz wrote: And I forgot that Hipat training when an engine failure occurs is to get into position = alpha then beta and then overhead 360 with everything down flaps high = pitch prop, gear down and STEEP 90 degree turn to the numbers keeping = the appropriate speed (120 kts in IV-P and EVO, 90 knots in a T -6) so = when your engine fails and you have the airport in sight with adequate = altitude what are you going to do? Avoid steep turns ? I can see the = crash short of the threshold or at the end of the runway, maybe pete = Zacagnino can give you some tips on the above Join lobo and get hipat training. Tell jeff I sent you Sent from my iPad