X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:45:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.1) with ESMTP id 5991316 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:40:36 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.33.127.80; envelope-from=troneill@charter.net Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130102144002.JSMM6169.mta11.charter.net@imp09> for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 09:40:02 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([75.132.241.174]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id j2g21k00Q3mUFT7052g292; Wed, 02 Jan 2013 09:40:02 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Cp/n6QED c=1 sm=1 a=VxlS/kh5Y2KhHY/Xui1ATg==:17 a=dJ56pg4wJVcA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=3tEqFnRyd2UA:10 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=yrYeEbW3CkOjMfGi_uEA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=EzXvWhQp4_cA:10 a=Jyrn1Pjp5aMRJiFFzwgA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=lbsgclKlzDvrtwzP:21 a=VxlS/kh5Y2KhHY/Xui1ATg==:117 From: Terrence O'Neill Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1085) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-248-873281203 Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 3 killed in small plane crash in Southern California X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 08:40:03 -0600 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: <9ACF06B8-48EB-445D-B785-9ABF47A41E1B@charter.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1085) --Apple-Mail-248-873281203 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Stall-spin? Any AOA? Terrence On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:11 AM, John Barrett wrote: > Interesting crash site photos that don=92t seem to correlate with = reports of A/C in spin, stall or aerobatic attitudes. Looks like he = pancaked in with a reasonable flat trajectory and photos don=92t show = evidence of significant pieces missing. Could he have gotten in a spin = or stall and just been pulling out when he impacted ground? > =20 > I know we shouldn=92t speculate, but photos and eyewitness reports = seem to have a disconnect. > =20 > John Barrett > =20 > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Guy and Jill Foreman > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 6:43 PM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] Re: 3 killed in small plane crash in Southern = California > =20 > IV-PT That crashed was N5M. > =20 > Guy Foreman --Apple-Mail-248-873281203 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Stall-spin?  Any = AOA?
Terrence

On Jan 2, 2013, at 7:11 AM, = John Barrett wrote:

Interesting crash site photos that don=92t seem to = correlate with reports of A/C in spin, stall or aerobatic = attitudes.  Looks like he pancaked in with a reasonable flat = trajectory and photos don=92t show evidence of significant pieces = missing.  Could he have gotten in a spin or stall and just been = pulling out when he impacted ground?
I know we shouldn=92t speculate, but photos and = eyewitness reports seem to have a = disconnect.
 
John = Barrett
 
 Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Guy and Jill = Foreman
Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 = 6:43 PM
To:  [LML] Re: 3 killed in small = plane crash in Southern = California
IV-PT That = crashed was N5M.
 
Guy = Foreman

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