X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:07:31 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-pz0-f52.google.com ([209.85.210.52] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.5) with ESMTPS id 5599787 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:00:53 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.52; envelope-from=pjdmiller@gmail.com Received: by dano14 with SMTP id o14so2839056dan.25 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.203.40 with SMTP id kn8mr9788959pbc.162.1339693216475; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:00:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.15.5] (S01060017ee00b6c0.cg.shawcable.net. [174.0.115.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ve4sm10065039pbc.55.2012.06.14.10.00.15 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 14 Jun 2012 10:00:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Miller Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-608748454 Subject: Re: [LML] Precise Flight Speed Brakes X-Original-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 13:00:01 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) --Apple-Mail-7-608748454 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Gordon: I had the use of using the Legacy with Speed brakes for a few = hundred hours then one side went u/s for over a year and I flew without = them until recently after I replaced a sensor. Indeed, these are = slippery little devils that require some planning in a pattern or before = descent from altitude. My overall feeling having flown both ways is = that I would not incorporate them if given the choice before the build. = I would live with the speed "problem" and lack of drag and find ways to = bleed off speed or start down earlier. I found I used them mostly = because I got behind the airplane but that's not a great reason. Most = helpful uses for me: 1) spiralling down 16,500 over Kalispell after = passing the mountains, 2) killing lift on the runway after landing, 3) = too high and hot on short final. If you've got the build for them and = find a pair I would put them in. My switch is on the panel, I would put = it on the stick if wiring it again. Paul Calgary On 2012-06-14, at 12:28 PM, Gordon Porter wrote: > Hello all. >=20 >=20 > What are your thoughts on adding speed brakes to a NA ES? Although I = am still flying in Phase 1, I can feel the extra difficulties in "coming = down and slowing down". The combination of a sleek airframe and no gear = to throw down adds noticeable speed to descents. >=20 > I did put the pockets and conduits in before closing the wings, so the = install would be much easier. >=20 > I did pose this question to the ES group and got mixed reactions, = although most feel they are not necessary, and several do not use them = even though they are equipped with them. >=20 > Anyone have a set of brakes they want to part with if I move forward = on this? >=20 > Thanks >=20 > Gordon > ES >=20 > N144GP >=20 > =20 > =20 --Apple-Mail-7-608748454 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Paul

Calgary

On = 2012-06-14, at 12:28 PM, Gordon Porter wrote:

I did = put the pockets and conduits in before closing the wings, so the install = would be much easier.
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