X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 09:30:00 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mailgate.tru.ca ([192.146.156.111] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5091328 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 21:30:00 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=192.146.156.111; envelope-from=dbaleshta@tru.ca Received: from mailgate.tru.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate (Postfix) with SMTP id DB9EC3245AA for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Groupwise4.tru.ca (groupwise4.tru.ca [192.146.156.118]) by mailgate.tru.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFCA32458C for ; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TRUDOM4-MTA by Groupwise4.tru.ca with Novell_GroupWise; Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:29:24 -0700 X-Original-Message-Id: <4E46C278020000B3000656E7@Groupwise4.tru.ca> X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 7.0.4 X-Original-Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2011 18:29:13 -0700 From: "Doug Baleshta" X-Original-To: Subject: flap deflection on LN 360 - outboard gear Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-PMX-Version: 5.5.5.374460, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.1.369594, Antispam-Data: 2011.8.14.11516 X-PerlMx-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report=' __CP_URI_IN_BODY! 0.5, SUPERLONG_LINE 0.05, BODY_SIZE_3000_3999 0, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS 0, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS 0, DATE_TZ_NA 0, WEIRD_PORT 0, __ANY_URI 0, __C230066_P2 0, __C230066_P5 0, __CD 0, __CP_NAME_BODY 0, __CT 0, __CTE 0, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN 0, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL 0, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL 0, __HAS_MSGID 0, __HAS_X_MAILER 0, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY 0, __MIME_VERSION 0, __SANE_MSGID 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_START 0, __SUBJ_ALPHA_START_END 0, __TO_MALFORMED_2 0, __TO_NO_NAME 0, __URI_NO_WWW 0' Just finalizing all the settings before the big spark next week. It will = be nice after 6 years to make some smoke... I noticed that my flaps are moving down to around 30 degrees, 10 degrees = less than the plans. This is due mainly to the amount the control horn = intrudes into the back seat which I could change with some rasping etc. = Will 10 degrees make much difference, what do you drivers use, do you ever = use full flaps? Thanks Doug >>> 08/12/11 11:48 AM >>> Michael Smith, where ever you are, I like to ask you a few questions = about=20 the L-IV...All I hear is about the L-IVP and I decided to go the IV=20 route...The kit that I bought is a IVP and after all the troubles that I = have=20 heard about I'm staying with the IV...But I would like to ask some info = about=20 it. Thanks in advance, Michael Giardino Glasair II-RG flying 7sz L-IV being painted _n66mg@aol.com_ (mailto:n66mg@aol.com)=20 310-678-4068 cell =20 =20 In a message dated 8/11/2011 1:33:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, =20 gt_phantom@hotmail.com writes: Hi Michael, You left out a very important part of that study, leaving your conclusions= =20 questionable. Even the persons who conducted the study suggested that at least part = (or=20 perhaps most) of the reason for the statistics had to do with people = flying=20 in airplanes that were not familiar. With steam gages, they all look=20 pretty much the same; not so flat panels. Like others, you have therefore drawn the wrong conclusion. It is not = the=20 EFIS that is "more dangerous," but the pilot who neglects to become=20 extremely competent with their chosen panel before flying IFR "for real." If you are going to strictly fly random rentals, I would agree that = your=20 best strategy is to stick to steam gages. If, however, 99% of your = flying=20 will be in your own plane then you simply need to become completely=20 knowledgeable about / comfortable with your panel before flying into the = soup. Fly safe! Bill On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Colyn Case wrote: =20 michael, got a link to that report? On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Michael Smith wrote: All these discussions about panel upgrades and so on begs the question as = to which setup- a an EFIS and flat screen set up or standard spinning gyros works better in terms of delivering an intact crew and passenger to the terminal and a plane that is reusable for further flight. I clearly agree the panels look cool, but I do pay attention to peer reviewed science. = The=20 Cirrus folks did a study and the results published about a year ago comparing the conventional gyro panels and the EFIS in the same model of plane- as close a randomized controlled trial in aviation as possible = these days. =20 The EFIS cohort bent more planes and orphaned more kids than the old = school gyros.=20 So I won't be flying with an EFIS until someone can prove they're safer. Michael Smith LIV now over 1000TT -- For archives and unsub=20 _http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html_ (http://mail.lancair= online.net:81/lists/lml/List.html)=20 -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html=