X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 15:12:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.80] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5088994 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 09:31:42 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.80; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K18c1h0031vN32cA81X31q; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:31:03 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.13] ([71.32.233.90]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id K1Wy1h00K1xhEKr8i1X1Br; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:31:06 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: EFIS versus six pack From: John Hafen In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:30:56 -0600 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: <02D6CD59-0F70-477D-BEDE-6A669925B8E8@comcast.net> References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) OK, on behalf of the rest of the guys on the list, I'll bite, and ask: = Why are pilots crashing EFIS aircraft? Please tell me the surprising = answer. Thanks John Hafen On Aug 11, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Jeff Edwards wrote: You all should be asking the question "why are pilots crashing EFIS = aircraft?" The answers might surprise you.=20 AvSafe=20 Jeff Edwards 314.308.6719 mobile 636.532.5638 office Jeff.edwards@avsafe.com On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:57 AM, Colyn Case wrote: > michael, got a link to that report? >=20 > On Aug 10, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Michael Smith wrote: >=20 >> All these discussions about panel upgrades and so on begs the = question as to >> which setup- a an EFIS and flat screen set up or standard spinning = gyros >> works better in terms of delivering an intact crew and passenger to = the >> terminal and a plane that is reusable for further flight. I clearly = agree >> the panels look cool, but I do pay attention to peer reviewed = science. The=20 >>=20 >> Cirrus folks did a study and the results published about a year ago >> comparing the conventional gyro panels and the EFIS in the same model = of >> plane- as close a randomized controlled trial in aviation as possible = these >> days. =20 >>=20 >> The EFIS cohort bent more planes and orphaned more kids than the old = school >> gyros.=20 >>=20 >> So I won't be flying with an EFIS until someone can prove they're = safer. >>=20 >> Michael Smith >> LIV now over 1000TT >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html