X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 07:55:38 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.91.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.1) with ESMTP id 5086226 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:04:10 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.91.97; envelope-from=rwolf99@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id p7943VA9001537 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 00:03:31 -0400 Received: from core-dqe002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.69]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AC011E000088 for ; Tue, 9 Aug 2011 00:03:31 -0400 (EDT) X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: TSOs and equipment failure X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 97.115.230.15 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: rwolf99@aol.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CE24606FB109C5_D74_26D2_webmail-m134.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 34007-STANDARD Received: from 97.115.230.15 by webmail-m134.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.14) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 09 Aug 2011 00:03:31 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CE24606F816E31-D74-DD9@webmail-m134.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [97.115.230.15] X-Original-Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 00:03:31 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:243787424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc4e40b1937343 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CE24606FB109C5_D74_26D2_webmail-m134.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hamid writes -- <> Actually I agree completely with Hamid. Environmental effects such as the = indirect effects of lightning are precisely where the TSO'd units have an a= dvantage. With my electrical power example I was trying to say that there = are other failure modes (loss of electrical power for a variety of reasons)= where the TSO'd unit goes dark just like the non-TSOd unit. I did envision electrical power surges due to failures in the electrical sy= stem causing the non-TSOd unit to fail which the TSOd unit might survive. = In this case, Hamid is right -- the TSOd unit has an advantage here as well= . The lesson is that problems with the fairly mundane portion of our avion= ics systems (electrical power generation and distribution) can also cause f= ailures of our whiz-bang EFISs and glass panel displays. It doesn't take a= lightning strike. - Rob Wolf Steam gauges in my airplane! ----------MB_8CE24606FB109C5_D74_26D2_webmail-m134.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Hamid writes --
 
<<What you are saying is that in a sy= stem with multiple alternator/batteries and isolated/redundant busses, a TS= O's system and a non-TSO's system can equally survive an adverse event like= a lightning induced power surge or an alternator caused voltage surge. I w= ould strongly disagree with your conclusion.>>
Actually I agree completely with Hamid.  Environmental effects su= ch as the indirect effects of lightning are precisely where the TSO'd units= have an advantage.  With my electrical power example I was trying to = say that there are other failure modes (loss of electrical power for a vari= ety of reasons) where the TSO'd unit goes dark just like the non-TSOd unit.=
 
I did envision electrical power surges due to failures in the ele= ctrical system causing the non-TSOd unit to fail which the TSOd unit might = survive.  In this case, Hamid is right -- the TSOd unit has an advanta= ge here as well.  The lesson is that problems with the fairly mundane = portion of our avionics systems (electrical power generation and distributi= on) can also cause failures of our whiz-bang EFISs and glass panel displays= .  It doesn't take a lightning strike.
 
- Rob Wolf
Steam gauges in my airplane!
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