X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:25:41 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from asp-3.reflexion.net ([205.237.99.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.16) with SMTP id 3811233 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:48:16 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.237.99.178; envelope-from=cberland@systems3.net Received: (qmail 18904 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2009 23:47:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO asp-3.reflexion.net) (127.0.0.1) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 12 Aug 2009 23:47:40 -0000 Received: by asp-3.reflexion.net (Reflexion email security v5.60.10) with SMTP; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 19:47:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: (qmail 18881 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2009 23:47:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO systems3.net) (98.172.79.178) by 0 (rfx-qmail) with SMTP; 12 Aug 2009 23:47:39 -0000 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CA1BA7.4934A71A" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Subject: [LML] Fly in primer? X-Original-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 16:47:43 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <87C33F695961494D886EB3B6C8A47651617AF4@s3server.Systems3.local> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Fly in primer? Thread-Index: Acobol4Or+9UEEZkQBigLb+XsRt6wwABFWRw References: From: "Craig Berland" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA1BA7.4934A71A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Should fly my plane fly in primer or should I paint it before? Fly in primer! I had a heavy right wing which required changing the wing incidence and therefore the root fittings. That would have been very ugly if it had been painted. Craig Berland IV-P N7VG =20 Dear subscribers, =20 Talking to some friends there is one question where I would like to get more input: Should fly my plane fly in primer or should I paint it before? History: It was a used plane with approx. 250 hrs, 10 years old and in a bad condition It had cracks on the outside, screws showing through the filler, and gaps around the gear doors of almost one inch and a door that was absolutely not working right. I removed tons of filler on the outside and a large area of foam on the belly that was not sticking to the carbon very good. I removed numerous screws in fuselage that were turning when I turned the nut on the other side. We added areas of carbon to avoid cracks above the wings. I slotted all screws that I used through the carbon before floxing them in and put one layer of glass or carbon over every head. We rebuild the whole gear door and step area. My friend that was helping me has 20 years of composite experience with certified airplanes. I can say we tried to fix everything that looked somehow suspicious and did not take any shortcuts. I am almost to the point where I got everything primed and mounted to the plane to check for interference and functionality but none of my bolts are reliable tight. I got all my metal parts cleaned up anodized, nickel plated or primed again. Almost everything looks like new again. I was planning to take everything apart again and paint it. I do not want to paint it in an assembled condition because it would drive me nuts having paint in spots where it does not belong (sorry, I know I am difficult). A friend mentioned the plane should fly in primer first to fix problems easier. What kind of problems should I expect (especially since it flew before) and what are your thoughts about this - It would require me to disassemble, assemble and adjust everything thoroughly, test it, disassemble for paint and assemble again. Thanks for your input =20 Ralf Bronnenmeier Phone: (419) 369 12 33 E-mail: bronnenmeier@grobsystems.com =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01CA1BA7.4934A71A Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Should fly my plane fly in primer or should I paint it = before?

Fly = in primer!

I had a heavy right wing which required changing the wing = incidence and therefore the root fittings.  That would have been very ugly if = it had been painted.

Craig Berland

IV-P N7VG

 

Dear subscribers,

 

Talking to some friends there is one question where I would like to get more = input:

Should fly my plane fly in primer or should I paint it = before?

History:=

It was a used plane with approx. 250 hrs, 10 years old and in a bad = condition

It had cracks on the outside, screws showing through the filler, and gaps = around the gear doors of almost one inch and a door that was absolutely not = working right.

I removed tons of filler on the outside and a large area of foam on the = belly that was not sticking to the carbon very good. I removed numerous screws = in fuselage that were turning when I turned the nut on the other = side.

We added areas of carbon to avoid cracks above the wings. I slotted all = screws that I used through the carbon before floxing them in and put one layer = of glass or carbon over every head. We rebuild the whole gear door and step = area.

My friend that was helping me has 20 years of composite experience with = certified airplanes. I can say we tried to fix everything that looked somehow = suspicious and did not take any shortcuts.

I am almost to the point where I got everything primed and mounted to the = plane to check for interference and functionality but none of my bolts are = reliable tight. I got all my metal parts cleaned up anodized, nickel plated or = primed again. Almost everything looks like new again. I was planning to take everything apart again and paint it. I do not want to paint it in an = assembled condition because it would drive me nuts having paint in spots where it = does not belong (sorry, I know I am difficult).

A friend mentioned the plane should fly in primer first to fix problems = easier. What kind of problems should I expect (especially since it flew before) = and what are your thoughts about this – It would require me to = disassemble, assemble and adjust everything thoroughly, test it, disassemble for = paint and assemble again.

Thanks for your input

 

Ralf Bronnenmeier

Phone: (419) 369 12 33

E-mail: bronnenmeier@grobsystems.com

 

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