Return-Path: Received: from lanfear.nidlink.com ([216.18.128.7]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:21:41 -0400 Received: from enaila.nidlink.com (root@enaila.nidlink.com [216.18.128.8]) by lanfear.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA29170 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from regandesigns.com (tnt132-174.nidlink.com [216.18.132.174]) by enaila.nidlink.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id IAA15659 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:27:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <39044B9B.8353DD3D@regandesigns.com> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:26:51 -0500 From: Brent Regan To: Lancair List Subject: Weight X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> For the record, the weight I posted for my engine included ALL installed components needed for a 4P installation AND 12 quarts of oil. For Charlie to make a comparison he must add to the Continentals "complete" weight the following: Vacuum pump (or second alternator) 3rd inter cooler (cabin air) Baffling and seals (inter cylinder baffling is already included) Engine vibration mounts Engine monitoring system transducers and wire (VM1000 in my case) Wiring for Starter and Alternator (that big gage stuff is heavy) Oil (12 qts) Prop governor and linkage I can't say exactly how much these parts weigh on a C engine but since I weighed my complete engine as a unit and all the parts individually and entered the numbers into a spreadsheet I can easily perform "what if" calculations. If I remove the items listed above the new "comparison weight" is 569.83 pounds +- 1.35 lbs compared to the Continental median weight of 571 pounds. What I want to know is why is there so much potential variation, +-14.3 pounds (2.5%), in the Continental weight? 28.6 pounds is a hell of a lot of metal to be present or not. It is like saying we are going to ship you a 6 cylinder engine, +- one cylinder. Obviously the engines do not vary this much. The lesson here is that if you are going to say how much something weighs, you should weigh it first. This whole thing started as an innocent question as to why I chose a Lycoming over a Continental. Since I am a big mouthed, opinionated SOB, I was more than happy to oblige. Just like the PC vs. Mac debate, it wont be settled here, or ever. If I may paraphrase Samuel Clemins "A wise man never argues with a fool because, to a passerby, it is difficult to tell who is who." I'll shut up now. Regards Brent Regan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>