X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:15:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from snt0-omc3-s11.snt0.hotmail.com ([65.55.90.150] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3800814 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:09:03 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.90.150; envelope-from=gary21sn@hotmail.com Received: from SNT112-DS11 ([65.55.90.135]) by snt0-omc3-s11.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:08:27 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [68.186.114.52] X-Originating-Email: [gary21sn@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: gary21sn@hotmail.com From: "Gary Edwards" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: p-factor takeoff in 235/320 X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:08:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_024D_01CA199A.195D3FC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.60.0053.2200 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 09:08:17 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2009 16:08:27.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[CB70AA00:01CA19D4] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_024D_01CA199A.195D3FC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 235 airframe has a small rudder compared the 320/360 series. A = majority of 235 builders have added the ventral fin to the bottom of the = fuselage and added the same amount to the bottom of the rudder. This = rudder addition adds about 20% more surface area to the rudder and helps = significantly during the takeoff for airframes with 320's. Doing as you have done, adding power slowly in the initial takeoff roll, = is still required even with the added amount to the rudder. On = occasion, full right rudder will still not be enough to overcome the 320 = overpowering the 235 airframe. Particularly if there is a bit of = crosswind. Gary Edwards LNC2 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: terrence o'neill=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:41 AM Subject: [LML] p-factor takeoff in 235/320 Hey! It works... slow application of throttle with full right rudder, = then gradually reducing rudder . I just pretend I'm in a P-51. : ) Thanks to all for the suggestions. Terrence L235/320 N211AL ------=_NextPart_000_024D_01CA199A.195D3FC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The 235 airframe has a small rudder compared the 320/360 = series.  A=20 majority of 235 builders have added the ventral fin to the bottom of the = fuselage and added the same amount to the bottom of the rudder.  = This=20 rudder addition adds about 20% more surface area to the rudder and helps = significantly during the takeoff for airframes with 320's.
 
Doing as you have done, adding power slowly in the initial = takeoff=20 roll, is still required even with the added amount to the rudder.  = On=20 occasion, full right rudder will still not be enough to overcome the 320 = overpowering the 235 airframe.  Particularly if there is a bit of=20 crosswind.
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2  
----- Original Message -----
From: terrence=20 o'neill
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 = 8:41=20 AM
Subject: [LML] p-factor takeoff = in=20 235/320

Hey!  It = works... slow=20 application of throttle with full right rudder, then gradually = reducing rudder=20 .
I just pretend = I'm in a=20 P-51.  : )
Thanks to all for = the=20 suggestions.
 
Terrence
L235/320=20 N211AL
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