X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:32:25 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com ([205.188.169.203] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.15) with ESMTP id 3800452 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:29:34 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.169.203; envelope-from=PJHWFD@aol.com Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n7AAStDT029425 for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:28:55 -0400 Received: from PJHWFD@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id q.d41.47fa1b6b (37115) for ; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mc02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mc02.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.98]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA011-d3d24a7ff65db8; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:28:50 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MZ22 (webmail-mz22.sim.aol.com [64.12.81.103]) by smtprly-mc02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMC024-d3d24a7ff65db8; Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:28:46 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Piano Hinges -- Carbon vs. Aluminum? X-Original-Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:28:45 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 216.57.118.236 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Peter Hebert X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CBE7BC799EF102_14C_9D4F_WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 216.57.118.236 by WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com (64.12.81.103) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 10 Aug 2009 06:28:45 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CBE7BC79897C05-14C-4CEC@WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CBE7BC799EF102_14C_9D4F_WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just to add a? little hint. the best tool for inserting and removing the pins on the carbinge is the Knipex parallel jaw pliers.? grips without marring so no stress risers for those who are concerned about breakage. Many of us have these from KCI. Peter Hebert -----Original Message----- From: Don Barnes To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2009 9:08 pm Subject: [LML] Re: Piano Hinges -- Carbon vs. Aluminum? For what it's worth, I'm a huge fan of the Carbon hinge. Moreover, John Barrett's honesty and integrity are as high as anyone would hope for. The main reason I went with and support my point of view are the ease of de-cowling, clean lines, and strength of this option. A picture of my plane was featured as the "mystery plane" and the odd bulge reported is actually a reflection of my wing.? ? I did have some trouble early on with getting the pins to slide in as the fit is tight due in part to the curved cowl and some paint getting in during the build process. This was corrected by John sending me some smaller diameter replacement pins and a religious practice of waxing up the pins with parafin wax before re-installing the pins. (They slide in much easier now).? ? By using the carbhinge system, you'll never see the rivets under paint as the clear shrinks up with time and by using hysol to bond, you can be assured they'll stay bonded. I did do a 2-bid lay-up over the installation, but that was more for peace of mind.? ? Don? ? Notice no bulge in this shot taken by Chris Luvara of www.stickandrudderphoto.com? -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ----------MB_8CBE7BC799EF102_14C_9D4F_WEBMAIL-MZ22.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Just to add a  little hint. the best tool for inserting and removing the pins on the carbinge is the Knipex parallel jaw pliers.  grips without marring so no stress risers for those who are concerned about breakage. Many of us have these from KCI.
Peter Hebert


-----Original Message-----
From: Don Barnes <don@cellarideas.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sun, Aug 9, 2009 9:08 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Piano Hinges -- Carbon vs. Aluminum?

For what it's worth, I'm a huge fan of the Carbon hinge. Moreover, John Barrett's honesty and integrity are as high as anyone would hope for. The main reason I went with and support my point of view are the ease of de-cowling, clean lines, and strength of this option. A picture of my plane was featured as the "mystery plane" and the odd bulge reported is actually a reflection of my wing. 
 
I did have some trouble early on with getting the pins to slide in as the fit is tight due in part to the curved cowl and some paint getting in during the build process. This was corrected by John sending me some smaller diameter replacement pins and a religious practice of waxing up the pins with parafin wax before re-installing the pins. (They slide in much easier now). 
 
By using the carbhinge system, you'll never see the rivets under paint as the clear shrinks up with time and by using hysol to bond, you can be assured they'll stay bonded. I did do a 2-bid lay-up over the installation, but that was more for peace of mind. 
 
Don 
 
Notice no bulge in this shot taken by Chris Luvara of www.stickandrudderphoto.com 

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