Return-Path: Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net ([206.13.28.241]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 03:14:09 -0400 Received: from postoffice.pacbell.net (ppp-206-170-2-9.sntc01.pacbell.net) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with ESMTP id <0FT900BXI5MDV4@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:18:59 -0700 From: erosiak@postoffice.pacbell.net Subject: Brand C vrs Brand L To: "lancair.list@olsusa.com" Reply-to: erosiak@pacbell.net Message-id: <38FD5DE3.927E06AA@postoffice.pacbell.net> X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> I find the inevitable argument regarding brand C vrs brand L an interesting one. When one adds the auto conversions to the mix, we get a thought provoking decision to make for our power plant. I think that when you look at the major engine options, you have to agree that each is based upon an old design. There is no argument that aircraft engine technology is based upon old designs, updated slooowly over the years. However, the Chevy 265 came out in 1955 if I recall, and while that may be only a distant relative to the new aluminum Chevy blocks of today, there still is a heritage. While no one can argue that Continental has had its problems over the past few years, so has Lycoming. The auto conversions have also had their fair share of problems. Each of us has his or her prejudices regarding the brand, and type power plant we want to use. That's good. It is from this diversity that positive change is implemented. Who wouldn't agree that the aircraft manufacturers have been pushed (hard) by the Experimental Movement? I think Charlie Kohler and John Barrett both made valid points. I believe Continental is acting responsibly and I don't think you can realistically compare an aircraft engine with a Cadillac Northstar (by the way, has anyone really made it 100,000 miles without a tune-up?) or Lexus, or what have you. I think a better automotive analogy might be a Ferrari. A Ferrari is a performance machine that we can all agree needs as much tender loving care as an aircraft. Costs are probably similar too. There are others too. One of my T210 partners owns a Porsche. Not the Turbo model, but the (air cooled) high horsepower model under it. He says there are two tune-up options on his Porsche. Minor (about $1200.00) and major (about $5000.00). He did tell me one day that he had the clutch replaced and the bill was $3700.00 after they also did a few more things. The clutch plate alone was $1000.00. Hell after that, I felt good about what our owner assisted annuals cost on the 210. TBO is another good discussion. An important factor to consider in attaining TBO on any engine is pilot operating technique. While I am not an engine expert, I do read about their systems as much as possible. Our TSIO-520 in the 210 has a TBO of 1400 hours. We have had a few problems with exhaust valves, but other than that I expect we will make TBO (we are at 1100+ now). We change oil every 25 hours, filter every other oil change and participate in oil analysis. We also fly conservatively. Usually at 65%, using a higher MP over RPM. So far so good (and it's been nine years). I for one enjoy all of the points of view shared here, but I have to tell you it wouldn't have changed my mind on the 550 I already purchased (for my ES in progress). Let's keep those ideas and concerns coming so we can all benefit from thinking all of this information through. Ed Rosiak ES (in progress) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>