X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.137.230] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.1c.2) with HTTP id 1236992 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:30:18 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Hmmm To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.1c.2 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:30:18 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <011e01c6a754$4a0ec050$6501a8c0@axs> References: <011e01c6a754$4a0ec050$6501a8c0@axs> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="iso-8859-1";format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "terrence o'neill" : Dom, What you say is true, but pilot attitude and capability isn't the whole story. Airplanes are designed imperfectly, re safety. Some more imperfectly than others. Except where the entrepreneur manages to keep control of the design until it si built and tested ... like Lance, airplanes are designed by the guys with financial control, and in companies this means the boards of directors go for the bottom line, and that shifts control to the marketing departments. Even then, very few folks who get authorized to start with a clean sheet, have the broad mastery of aerodynamics and structures needed to create breakthroughs. Think Jack Northrop and Kelly Johnson. As a result we have for some time had a long dry period of super-refining to 'new and improved', rather than breakthroughs. Only after 50 years is Boeing considering a configuration breakthrough with great improvements in performance and efficiency ... the blended wing-body. Northrop offered it in 1949. The point being belabored is that our airplanes themselves are not as safe as they could have been sixty years ago if we had changed our attitude and demanded/FAA encouraged: that all fuel be ejectable, greater positive pitching moments throughout the AOA range by bigger tails so that stalls coujld not be maintainable (and therefore spin-proof), ballistic-chutes and mufflers required. One big contributor to this probelm of improvement is the FAA's legalistic autonomy, which penalizes the improvers by making them pay for explaining and persuading it to the workers in the FAA regional office, who are nervous about approving anything unproven', thereby preempting the torts courts. Even though the FAA employs more lawyers than there are pilots in flight. In a sentence, our planes are okay, but could be much better ... so we shouldn't blame the poor human being who did not really wan t to kill himself. I don't think we should respond to tragedy by saying 'we'll try harder'. I think that instead we should ffankly, honestly admit there are flaws where they exist and take action to modify them. Not so easy to do ... like, probably 95 out of 100 pilots don't understand that a wing (and tail) stalls at an ANGLE. Not at a 'speed'. AOAs should be a required basic instrujment on every airPLANE ... that flys by angling it's wing to the relative wind... something that apparently puzzles FAA policy authorities. I think pilots are good enough already. I think BFRs are completely unnecessary and it has been proven so in a study, and the cost deters new and licensed pilots from continuing to fly. I think medicals are unnecessary because they aren't requjired for driving a car. I think we need more common sense, and less gullability to governmental and airlines and military PR that lies about a crowded sky. It makes me sad to look up at the sky and see no airplanes. So I go to my hangar and look at the one that isn't quite ready to get up there yet. : )I yield the remainder of my time to anyone with an opinion, rather than a 'feeling'. Terrence (aka Redhand) N211AL L235/320 99.9%