X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 13:13:47 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.8) with ESMTP id 984162 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Feb 2006 00:50:59 -0500 Received: from tgourley ([71.111.120.111]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IUN00B0LXKWP3G1@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Feb 2006 23:50:59 -0600 (CST) X-Original-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 21:45:06 -0800 From: "Tom Gourley" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Batteries X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Reply-to: "Tom Gourley" X-Original-Message-id: <003201c63129$cfbf9fe0$660610ac@tgourley> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: Another series of batteries worth a close look is from Odyssey (www.odysseybatteries.com). Odyssey refers to these batteries as "dry cell", but if you read through their FAQs you'll find they are in fact recombinant gas. Based on the specs their batteries have more cranking power in a smaller, lighter package than the Concorde RG series, at about the same price. Their PC680 is very popular with the RV crowd (Van's Aircraft sells them). It's in a 7-1/16" x 2-15/16" x 6-9/16" package that weighs 14.5 lbs. It can deliver 680 cranking amps for 5 seconds or 525 cranking amps for 20 seconds. The next step up is the PC925. It's 6-1/2" x 6-7/8" x 4-7/8", weighs 23 lbs, delivers 926 cranking amps for 5 seconds or 765 amps for 20 seconds. I would be more interested in the PC925, not so much for its cranking power but because it has 28 amp-hr capacity where the PC680 is only 17 amp-hr. Our Lancairs, on average, tend to have more electronic goodies than RVs so the extra capacity would be a good thing. Odyssey has even bigger batteries if you need more power. Odyssey has quite a bit of detail on charge and discharge characteristics. One thing worth noting is their comment that a battery tender type charger is excellent for maintaining a maximum charge on one of their batteries but doesn't have enough current output to recharge one that has been deeply discharged. One more note. In an earlier mail I said that, in general, Concorde recommends charging their RG batteries at a constant voltage of 14.1V. Specifically they say charge at 14.0 - 14.2V when the battery temperature is 50 - 90 degree F. If the battery temperature is 90 F or higher you should charge at 13.75V. I suspect that when flying the battery temperature will be somewhat higher than ambient so it's likely that the battery itself frequently will be 90 degrees or higher when being charged by your airplane's electrical system. In this case your voltage regulator should be set closer to 13.75V than to 14.1V. This is consistent with anecdotal information from a couple of friends who, early on, had problems getting decent service life out of Concorde batteries in their Lancairs. Adjusting their voltage regulators down from 14.2V to 13.8V seems to have fixed the problem. Tom Gourley ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schroeder" To: "Lancair Mailing List" Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 10:48 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Batteries > Mike - > > I've seen this product indorsed in a couple of other places. I have one > and it is a very nice piece of equipment. Bob Nuckolls uses one to > maintain and charge two batteries. If one is not in a big hurry, the > Battery Tender Junior will charge (slowly) and maintain the charged state > very well. > > John > > > On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 10:01:39 -0500, wrote: > > > They recommended the Battery Tender Plus, available at > > www.batterymart.com for $44. The article has extensive information on > > the features of various aircraft battery chargers. > > > > -- > > > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/