Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #29271
From: Bill&Sue <5zq@cox.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] The Iceman cometh (down gently)
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:15:53 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

Hello Scott,
 

    1. Do you think that the freezing rain contained super-cooled large droplets?  I understand this to be the worst and almost impossible to create in flight tests.

I'm convinced that it was freezing rain. Just how large the droplets, I can't say. Probably fairly large due to the splash pattern and the extreme rapidity of accumulation.

 

  1. Do you think that Lancair’s being equipped with excess power (more than minimally required in STC’d aircraft) contributed to the successful outcome
Well, I'm glad that I didn't have any LESS power, but the fact is; no matter how much power, the airplane was going to reach the surface in short order. I just abreviated the approach as much as possible to have the runway under the plane when it got to the surface. 
 

 

  1. Could you report on the tail plane icing?  I read the story of the prolonged climb with the ice locking control surfaces on the IV – Ice buildup on the under surfaces, too?  I have been concerned about the tail because of the sharp leading edges and the potential for building ice first.

The horned pattern ("horns" above and below the LE with a forward facing concave shape between them) was the same on the h stab as the wing. I was aware of the possibility of freezing the controls and kept moving them rapidly every 30 seconds or so. At no time did any of the controls freeze. My elevator counter weight is "faired" behind the h stab pretty well and, as far as I could tell accumulated no ice. One feature of the LNC2 that probably helped is the fact that there is not very much tail down force required to maintain level flight. This is one of the things that makes our planes so sensitive in pitch. In an icing situation, it probably helped prevent a tail plane stall. BTW I have the small tail.   

 

     4.  What did the plane feel like with the initial partial extension of the flaps – pitch
          and controllability?

 Controllability was good, although I didn't do a whole lot of unnecessary maneuvering. I did bring the flaps out of reflex in order to try to reduce AOA. I think that I got them to "0" before I accumulated the worst of the ice. The airplane felt about like it would without ice but with about 12" manifold pressure.

 

 

Now for the poser.  This only pertains to Lancair 235/320/360s and their special wings with reflexed flaps……….

 

We know that these wings have certain characteristics with the flap at zero degrees.  The reflex position (-7 degrees) is utilized to reduce lift and drag with a change in the center of lift causing a nose up pitch (AOA change too).  This is inherent in the design.

 

So, when slowed down by carrying ice would it be better to return the flaps to the zero degree position in order to lower the nose, reduce the angle of attack and increase the lift? 

 

Yes, I think that this is the best thing to do. One thing to remember, every icing encounter is different. I'm sure that how the ice shapes itself on the LE makes a large difference in handling and performance. The forward facing concave shape that I encountered is unusual, I've never seen anything like that before. Tail plane stall is a definite possibility in most airplanes with a lot of ice. That was one of the things I was most worried about and one of the reasons why I didn't reduce airspeed below 120 kts until at the runway.

 

 

Bill Harrelson

5zq@cox.net

N5ZQ  320  950+ hrs

N6ZQ   IV   1%

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