Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #29199
From: Bill&Sue <5zq@cox.net>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: ICE
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:19:54 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
> Thanks for the story.  What was the lesson learned?
>
Hmmm, I'm still trying to figure that one out. I had been hard IFR all day from Virginia. The area forcast mentioned chance of light rime but I hadn't seen any all day. There were no pilot reports of icing. When I did see the light rime it wasn't a big deal. During the descent, however, I believe that I flew through freezing rain. This would be consistant with the shape of the ice on the leading edge (two horns above and below the LE with a concave forward face between them, ie; a splash pattern) as well as the extremely rapid buildup of ice. Freezing rain was not in the forcast and was not occurring on the ground. I also felt that I had an "out" (incorrect) with the surface temps reporting above freezing everywhere (+3 at Plainview). By the time the ice began forming rapidly, I was already on the approach. Damn few other ideas came to mind other than to try to keep the airplane under control and to try to be at the runway when I got to the surface. There was no hope of holding altitude or "stretching" the descent.
 
Ice is still extremely difficult to predict. I've spent countless hours in conditions seemingly perfect for ice and seen none. Other times in what appears to be identical conditions, ice forms. Rarely, such as what happened to me Saturday afternoon, ice forms so fast that if you're not very close to an airport and start an approach immediately, you're not gonna make it. In 24,000 hours I've seen a bit of ice, but this was the worst and most rapidly forming I've ever encountered. 
 
Matt, one problem that I didn't have was any icing on the static ports. I think that my "test" showed that they will remain ice free in the worst of conditions. (mine are behind the canopy,as per the manual) The pitot heat worked and so all instruments remained reliable.
 
 
     I take a lot of crap for trying to get de-ice on my LIV-P.
     People say "just stay out of it".   Good advice I think but I'm
  not sure real life always works out that way.  Was this such a case
  or could you have avoided it?
 
  Colyn
 
Yes, of course. Stay on the ground. Just don't fly IFR with temps anywhere near freezing. But like you say, real life doesn't always work out that way.
 
Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ  320  950+ hrs
N6ZQ   IV    1% 

 
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