Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 14:02:24 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from superman.pns.networktel.net ([216.83.236.232] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 766532 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Mar 2005 12:08:51 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.83.236.232; envelope-from=walter@advancedpilot.com Received: from jor-l.pns.networktel.net (jor-l.pns.networktel.net [216.83.236.236]) by superman.pns.networktel.net (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j22H87qY059980 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:08:07 GMT (envelope-from walter@advancedpilot.com) Received: from [10.0.1.2] (216-107-97-170.wan.networktel.net [216.107.97.170]) by jor-l.pns.networktel.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j22H6lXt053846 for ; Wed, 2 Mar 2005 17:06:48 GMT (envelope-from walter@advancedpilot.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619.2) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Original-Message-Id: <7c0a39fe4bf6b5dc5af09dbd2e9f83ad@advancedpilot.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Walter Atkinson Subject: Re: [LML] Leaning for Taxi X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:08:03 -0600 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619.2) X-AntiVirus: checked by Vexira Milter 1.0.6; VAE 6.29.0.7; VDF 6.29.0.103 Mike: The purpose of a run-up (among other things) is to check the health of the ignition system. The more stress the ignition system is placed under, the better the test. In order of value are the following mag checks: Most valuable 1) high power, inflight LOP. 2) high power, inflight ROP. 3) ground run-up LOP (aggressively leaned). 4) ground run-up ROP. Least valuable The last one is all but worthless. It will only tell you that the mag is working or whether or not you have an already DEAD plug. I find weak/non-working plugs during the in-flight LOP check that will not show as bad for many more hours during a ROP ground check. As a result, I many times do not do run-up mag checks unless I'm coming out of maintenance. I do the in-flight LOP mag check before the descent on every flight. If I find something, I'm about to land and can get it fixed. If I find it working properly, it will darned sure pass a run-up mag check, so I don't fool with them. The only thing I do is switch to left and right mags while taxiing out to confirm that both mags are on line. We find 2-3% of NEW plugs will not pass an inflight, LOP mag check. I toss those. It's very common to have a bad/weak plug that acts up in flight and will pass a run-up and mechanic's bomb test. That's one source of engine roughness that's a head-scratcher for the pilot and mechanic. Frequently a high power, inflight mag check will find the problem. We have a significant number of pilots now doing inflight mag checks as a matter of routine. They are they guys whose engines run really well! Walter On Mar 2, 2005, at 10:33 AM, Mike S. Reinath wrote: <<< I do the runup at this leaned mixture setting as it is more diagnostic. >>> Walter, or anyone else, please explain why it would be more diagnostic to runup leaned as you describe. Mike Reinath LNC2 at 460 hrs TT San Jose, CA (RHV) -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/