Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:11:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 762560 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:47:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.205; envelope-from=glcasey@adelphia.net Received: from worldwinds ([70.32.213.236]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050228134641.BDUB5402.mta11.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 08:46:41 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: Re: FADEC Rough idle explanation X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 05:43:37 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal <> That may be the most pertinent question. I agree with George's comments, but my comparison earlier was with a "normal" FADEC with and open-loop speed density algorithm for both fuel and spark, while his was of an "optimized" system. Some have said that the mechanical systems are as "accurate", but I think that is a misused word - they are consistent and uniform with potentially even fuel distribution, but accuracy would imply that under a given set of conditions you could pull the mixture to a fixed position and have the correct mixture. The mechanical systems rely on the pilot setting the mixture using a feedback system. I've heard the same arguments 50 years ago about automatic chokes on cars - "I can control the choke better than any stinkin bimetal." The real question might be are we ready and willing to accept an engine control system that will allow us to just turn the key to start and then never have to intervene with engine operation after that? It might be a worthwhile thing even though it can be demonstrated that the mechanical system, given the correct control manipulation, is "just as good." Okay, I'll admit it - just as Adam implied, I took off the other day with a lean mixture. Gary Casey