Return-Path: Received: from portal.udlp.com ([207.109.1.80]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 12:04:54 -0400 Received: from portal.udlp.com (root@localhost) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id LAA13566; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:07:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ccmail.udlp.com ([10.1.6.254]) by portal.udlp.com with ESMTP id LAA13540; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:07:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ccMail by ccmail.udlp.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.12) id 0032CD66; Tue, 25 May 1999 11:05:53 -0500 From: CHRISTOPHER_ZAVATSON@udlp.com Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 08:42:23 -0500 Message-ID: <0032CD66.C21254@udlp.com> Subject: Re:Aileron Vibration To: RicArgente@cs.com, lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Rick, Is the trailing edge moving up and down farther than the leading edge? That is what I mean by rotation. What you are feeling in the control stick could be from the ailerons (rotating) or any of the push rods transmitting engine vibration through the system. I had my prop balanced and have the softer mounts installed, but still have vibration. All of the rod end bearings will loosen up over time adding to the slop. You could weld your control stick in place and still not arrest the aileron movement, because you can't take all the play out of each and every bearing in the control system. When I examined the controls of the factory planes, I was amazed at how much slop I found. When my plane was new everything was nice and tight-no play. Now my controls feel more like those I saw in Redmond. As Pine Pienaar mentioned, the curved skin to which the counterweights are attached is not stiff enough. If left as is, the counter weight will lag behind during accelerations as the material flexes. Braces are needed to make sure everything moves together as one mass. I did try two slightly different balance points but without any luck. BTW, I have seen the same vibration on certified airplanes. I know the factory has had to replace hinges on their 360. I am guessing it is due to this vibration continuously beating on them. Good Luck and keep us posted, Chris Zavatson N91CZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html