Return-Path: Received: from www.sequoianet.com ([206.242.77.3]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:10:18 -0400 Received: from inet001.cardell.com (INET001.sequoianet.com [207.87.248.2]) by www.sequoianet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-51638U1000L1000S0) with SMTP id AAA166 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:19:43 -0400 Received: from ccMail by inet001.cardell.com (ccMail Link to SMTP R8.00.01) id AA925136344; Mon, 26 Apr 99 10:19:09 -0500 Message-Id: <9904269251.AA925136344@inet001.cardell.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 99 10:08:23 -0500 From: To: Subject: Re:Suing Continental X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> While the subject of suing TCM is somewhat removed from my daily 360 construction concerns, it is interesting to hear people's views. I suspect the pilot/owner community will get the best response from TCM in the long term if we presume innocence rather than guilt. Consult with attorneys if need be but leave them home. You can't have a real discussion with the equivalent of kleig lights and TV cameras rolling. The other question that comes to mind is, how precisely will a lawsuit improve quality? This is, afterall, the professed goal of everybody (usually the real goal is money, but that's not the case here, I'm certain). Will the suit say that TCM shall triple inspect all components? Quadruple? Must they employ thus-and-such special equipment on the assembly line? You get the idea. Those of you with manufacturing experience can appreciate the ludicrousness of a bunch of lawyers trouping through a plant and dispensing medication to cure all ills. Obviously the attorneys won't directly fix anything. Only the TCM engineers can fix manufacturing problems, internally and with their supply base. Would there be a trial? (wouldn't that be grand for this industry). So the goal is perhaps to fix the management - to "get their attention". Maybe they aren't directing their engineers to fix problems, or aren't funding the engineers' efforts properly. TCM managment will certainly read it this way if lawyers show up. They might look past this symbolic vote of no confidence. Is TCM management incompetent? If not, how are we helping anything by suing or threatening to sue? Aren't we just adding another rock to an already heavy bag? If they are incompetent (who judges?) does the lawsuit say they are to be replaced? By whom? Maybe, it's a communication problem. They aren't publicising all the facts and background that would make all the circumstances fit together. Well that would certainly be SOP at many companies. Not everybody has a 90's culture of free and open communication (too bad, actually). If it's a communication problem, how do we find out? What if the problem is far worse than anybody external to TCM has yet imagined and TCM hasn't yet developed the corrective action? The gentlemen who suggested that this is a marriage between us and TCM has it right. There's nobody else to shift the problem to, we have to work it out. You meet with the chief executive and more importantly, the guy responsible for the division (if it's not the same) and see if he seems to understand the problem and implications and is doing everything he can to see them fixed. The chief will be grateful if you give him the courtesy of an exploratory discussion, giving him a chance to right the wrong before you pull out the gun. Everybody saves face this way. If you're stuck with a repair bill that is their fault, and they won't pay, then by all means take graduated steps necessary to recover your loss. Start by making sure it's not a low level bureaucratic problem. I'm amazed at what a nicely worded letter to the boss will do. Sometimes the recompense is more than I asked for. But turning that into a crusade to send a message, "so that others don't have to go through what I did", is ill conceived and, when all the facts eventually come out, unfair. This sounds odd, but TCM is nothing more than a collection of people organized to produce engines for us, the best way they know how. Being people, they have emotions like pilots and builders and can be expected to react accordingly. Back to building... (my Lycoming equipped airplane) Ed de Chazal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html