Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:16:46 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp.comcast.net ([24.153.64.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with ESMTP id 1982713 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:04:54 -0500 Received: from cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net (pcp735631pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net [68.50.58.204]) by mtaout07.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.07 (built Nov 25 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H8O00FETRC1QU@mtaout07.icomcast.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:04:54 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:06:34 -0500 From: Bob Pastusek Subject: RE: [LML] Wing Incidence In-reply-to: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Reply-to: rpastusek@htii.com X-Original-Message-id: <00d701c2bb82$53ad3cc0$6601a8c0@cp172883-b.arlngt01.va.comcast.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Importance: Normal X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-priority: Normal Mike Hutchins noted: I am a bit surprised to learn that people are "finding" that their wing incidence is different from side to side by as much as 2 degrees or that the wing twist (washout) varies by more than 0.5 degrees... Mike, Jim White and I spend a considerable time checking and measuring our (closed at the factory )wings for these things, both before and after mounting on our IV-P's. My conclusion after spending many hours on this was that the wings were identical within the measuring accuracy of our instruments/tools. (Estimated to be approx 0.2 degrees). We spent some time and effort setting the incidence and rake identical for both wings, and discovered in the process that the basic fuselage is bowed about 1/4" in the center to the right of the centerline. This turns out to be unimportant for anything we could determine, but it did give us fits for a while... I believe we mounted both wings within 0.2 degrees of the specified incidence, and both are set to the same incidence within the measuring accuracy of our tools. As noted elsewhere in the forum, if there is a discrepancy in washout between the wings, I'd adjust the rear spar mounting to provide equal incidence at the tips and then check the incidence at the roots. A small discrepancy at the root will not matter, but if there is one, you might back out a small part of the difference, recognizing that the rolling moment will be based on how much lift the ends of the wings generate. The book has you measure/set incidence at the roots, but make up a wingtip profile/form and make them as close to equal as you can. You didn't ask, but I cut off the Lancair-provided hinge section that's provided as a trim tab, and remade a trim tab within the left aileron that is 1.5 times larger than the original hinge section. This was based on the observation from flying several IV's built to spec that have marginal trim control in roll. That is, even a moderate fuel imbalance can't be trimmed out. I'd strongly recommend you take advantage of the factory wing closing option for several reasons, only one is to take advantage of their well-aligned and very substantial jigs. Hope this helps, Bob Pastusek ############################################################# For archives see the LML website: http://www.lancaironline.net/maillist.html LML members receive a 10% discount at http://www.buildersbooks.com