Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:09:40 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.227.35] (HELO hawaii.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.5) with ESMTP id 1982232 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Jan 2003 13:07:06 -0500 Received: (apparently) from IIPMOBILE ([24.161.141.153]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:07:05 -1000 Reply-To: From: "IIP" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Stretching the IV X-Original-Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 08:08:26 -1000 Organization: IIP X-Original-Message-ID: <008401c2bb2e$c65bf440$6501a8c0@hawaii.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal X-Original-Return-Path: IIP@hawaii.rr.com Doug: You are undoubtedly correct that GW's have been chasing practicality. It's not quite as bad as all that, though. Ours weighed 2,275 MT w/o interior, which will be complete in a couple of weeks. We expect 2,400, all-in. At 6.7 for Jet A, full fuel is about 800#. So, for max. range with only a pilot, we are above the original "recommended" GW. However, with full fuel and two in the front, our CG is still well forward. And even with 4 people at 4,000#, it is still forward of the aft CG. So, my question to the group is exactly the same as yours: Other than being heavier and being in different places within the CG range, what other (non-emergency) flight characteristics develop between 3,000 and 4,000#'s? Your point about emergency situations is well-taken, and I wish I knew where the "safe" emergency situation GW/CG was. Brian