Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #7315
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: intake ideas?
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 11:07:08 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Actually, Rusty.  I have always been fuel injected.  My first manifold was using 50 mm twin throat TMW Webber throttle body (with 4 injectors), a racing beat webber DOE manifold which I flew on a 86 six port block.  I only had one flight on that engine with the new (longer smaller diameter) manifold before my HALTECH fuel injection system failed, so did not get a good comparison.  However, on that one flight with the old engine and new manifold I did note that my rate of climb increased by 300 fpm over the old manifold.  Certainly not a conclusive nor exhaust test and comparison, but enough to convince me to keep the new manifold when I installed the turbo block.
 
In just about every theory of induction tuning I have looked at (and its been quite a few), if they agreed on anything - it was longer, smaller diameter tubes favored torque at lower rpms and short, larger diameter tubes favored power at the higher rpms.  Again, we are talking about attempt to get an optimum match.  That does not mean an engine will not run nor produce power with less than an optimum setup - it just simply won't be "optimum".  And as I mentioned in an earlier e mail, there are other considerations that may make a less than optimum setup desirable or at least the lesser of the evils faced {:>)
 
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 6:23 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: intake ideas?

The question of tuned runners is ‘how much is the benefit?’, and ‘what do you want to give up for it’.   
 
Thanks to you both for the comments.  I think Al hit the nail on the head with the above statement.  There are so many compromises that have to be made, particularly when you don't have much room to work with.  It would be great to see a direct comparison of a short intake vs a nicely tuned one.  AFAIK, no one has done that.  I know Ed had a short intake in the past, but I'm thinking that he changed some other major items (engine or fuel injection system?) at the same time he changed intakes, which would invalidate the test. 
 
I also agree about the injector placement, and I'm starting to think the best arrangement is either to have the primaries in the block, and secondaries in the TB, or all four injectors in the TB on a short intake.  Since I have both a 2 and a 4 injector version of the TWM TB, I guess I can go either way on the next iteration.  
 
BTW, Al, did you make that intake?  It's beautiful!
 
Cheers,
Rusty (wishing I was home where I could start working on the new intake)
 
 
 
 
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