Return-Path: Received: from email.netonecom.net ([209.172.26.13] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3134839 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 18:24:58 -0500 Received: from johndown (C04-097.netonecom.net [216.65.187.97]) by email.netonecom.net (MOS 3.4.2-CR) with SMTP id CUF77664; Mon, 29 Mar 2004 17:51:23 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <00ce01c415da$289dcaa0$61bb41d8@johndown> From: "john" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Transfer Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:32:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Here in Michigan being cheap on handling fuel is not a good idea, anything over 15 gal. can mean real trouble. The fines start at $1200.00 if something happens. Go to the farm store and buy a tank for 100 gallons at about $200.00, it comes with a DOT approval tag and if you have an accident, you and the insurance company will love it. JohnD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sower" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:00 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Transfer > <... Being lazy & cheap ...> > Those kinds of people are the source of most creative solutions > > Charlie & Tupper England wrote: > > > Being lazy & cheap, my 1st response would be to pay $10 for a steel 55 > > gal drum. If you really want an AL tank, why not just use a/c grade AL > > sheet & assemble the 6 sides & internal stiffening ribs with proseal & > > rivets? > > > > If you really want to weld, how about welding the lid on one of those AL > > tool boxes made to hang in the bed of a pickup? > > > > (I told you I was lazy.) > > > > Charlie > > > > marc wrote: > > > > > The tank idea is good, but can anyone suggest an inexpensive place for > > > me to purchase sheet alumumin for a self supporting tank? (someplace > > > that would even cut it up to my pattern would be even better!) I will > > > weld it up myself, in a custom form, so it has to be thick enough. Any > > > suggestions on the thickness, weldability and strength for a moveable > > > AL tank? > > > > > > > > > > > > Marc Wiese > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] > > > On Behalf Of Russell Duffy > > > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 11:20 AM > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel Transfer > > > > > > > > > > > > Rusty why not just 'tee' into the gas line from the tank? If you get > > > the tee close enought to the tank it shouldn't be to bad, it won't be > > > gas pump fast but... should work shouldn't it? > > > > > > Jarrett > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought about that, but I'm reluctant to modify the new truck, > > > particularly on the high pressure side of the fuel line. I haven't > > > listened to the pump, but on some vehicles, the fuel pump comes on to > > > pre-pressurize the system at the first position of the key switch. I > > > thought about putting a line after the pump (which is probably in the > > > tank), and using the vehicles pump to transfer fuel to the plane. I'm > > > afraid this would be pretty slow though. > > > > > > > > > > > > The current thought is a custom made aluminum tank, that's on wheels, > > > but could be secured in the truck bed. It would also have to have a > > > nice ground wire attachment, to connect to the truck, or plane as > > > needed. The idea would be to also have a cart on wheels at the > > > hanger, which would be the same height as the truck bed. I could > > > easily roll the tank from the truck bed onto the cart, then wheel the > > > cart over to the plane. It should be high enough to gravity feed into > > > the plane, via a large line installed at the bottom of the tank. > > > > > > > > > > > > Still thinking about it, but it's not my biggest problem at the moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Rusty (finished the new W&B numbers, but I can't post the results > > > until tonight) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Jim Sower ... Destiny's Plaything > Crossville, TN; Chapter 5 > Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html